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re: Why do we give the socialists/communists a pass on things like the Holodomor?
Posted on 2/3/23 at 12:14 pm to dawgfan24348
Posted on 2/3/23 at 12:14 pm to dawgfan24348
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When people talk about Antifa they’re mostly talking about the black blocs which are the ones that cause the chaos. A lot of them aren’t even socialists or communists. There’s a lot of anarchists and variations of anarcho-communists and anarcho-capitalists. Obviously don’t agree with their views or methods but calling them fascists is objectively false
Technically true. However, suppressing any dissenting views with violence and obstructionism, and generally acting dictatorial is the characteristic of fascism that makes it the most reprehensible.
It’s true that to be fascist it takes more ingredients than that, and fascists aren’t alone in using violence to suppress dissent.
However, that group is farther from being “anti-fascist” than being “fascist”.
This post was edited on 2/3/23 at 12:15 pm
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Posted on 2/3/23 at 12:31 pm to Porter Osborne Jr
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Those who suffered through the Holodomer also don’t propagandize it every chance they get
I agree with this. Listening to Dennis Prager speak you’d think he was fricking Elie Wiesel.
Posted on 2/3/23 at 1:18 pm to grizzlylongcut
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People love bringing up the holocaust
But where is the uproar about the half million Gypsies who were murdered in the holocaust? The only explanation I've heard is: 'Well, every country in Europe hated the Gypsies.'
Posted on 2/3/23 at 1:47 pm to el Gaucho
quote:one genocide
Only one genocide matters
and
one slavery
Am I doing this right?
This post was edited on 2/3/23 at 1:49 pm
Posted on 2/3/23 at 1:51 pm to grizzlylongcut
Why is the poliboard giving a pass to a second Holodomor currently going on? Talk about the pot calling the kettle black.
Posted on 2/3/23 at 1:52 pm to sta4ever
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Why is the poliboard giving a pass to a second Holodomor currently going on?
The one where we are paying Ukraine to fight Russia?
Posted on 2/3/23 at 2:38 pm to sta4ever
Quit bastardizing your terms.
While both are bad, one nation attacking another is not the same as a government collectivizing the individual property of its citizens and vilifying them to the point of starvation, imprisonment, torture, and death, to the tune of maybe 5 million people all in the name of creating a human utopia.
Did you even read Animal Farm?
While both are bad, one nation attacking another is not the same as a government collectivizing the individual property of its citizens and vilifying them to the point of starvation, imprisonment, torture, and death, to the tune of maybe 5 million people all in the name of creating a human utopia.
Did you even read Animal Farm?
Posted on 2/3/23 at 2:54 pm to grizzlylongcut
quote:I think most people (who are aware of them) fully-acknowledge the wrongs of the CCP in the Cultural Revolution and (for instance) of the Khmer Rouge in Cambodia.
Why do we give the socialists/communists a pass on things
The Holodomor is harder for some to grasp, because people were not lined-up and shot or herded into execution chambers. On its face, they died of starvation during a famine. You have to look deeper to see anything more than that, and most people never bother to look beneath the surface.
Posted on 2/3/23 at 2:56 pm to grizzlylongcut
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Yet I bet 90% (at least) of the American general public couldn’t tell you a damn thing about the Holodomor. Or the gulag archipelago.
This board won't read more than three sentences unless it's related to food or travel. What did you expect of everyone else?
Posted on 2/3/23 at 2:57 pm to dawgfan24348
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dawgfan24348
Says the incel Commie, who supports Bernie
Posted on 2/3/23 at 2:58 pm to Porter Osborne Jr
quote:Well, they were stuck behind the Iron Curtain and did not have much opportunity to be interviewed on Merv Griffin.
Those who suffered through the Holodomer also don’t propagandize it every chance they get
Posted on 2/3/23 at 3:00 pm to Zach
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But where is the uproar about the half million Gypsies
Gypsies are too busy trading stolen goods in their caravans.
Seriously, I don't think anyone that is a student of history isn't outraged at all the killings that occurred during the holocaust, including the gypsies. And the intellectuals. And the communists. And the POWs. And the gays. Etc.
Posted on 2/3/23 at 3:05 pm to grizzlylongcut
If you want to get these soft brains to latch on to anything, you will have to provide pictures, and appeal to their emotions, for without that they are useless and will simply gloss over it. Critical thinking is absolutely not something that drives them. It’s why they are so easily manipulated to action in this country. If it appeals to their emotions, and can make them look good in front of their peers, then they are all about it. Otherwise, critical thinking that deviates from their pack of numb skulls requires real courage, and why have courage when you can feel good and people think well of you that you find useful in life?
Posted on 2/3/23 at 3:08 pm to Zach
Re the comment about there being no uproar about the murder of half million Gypsies as part of the Holocaust, in every book I've read about Auschwitz, and I've read many, the murder of the Gypsies are mentioned in every one. In Auschwitz, they were basically murdered all at once. Their camp within the camp was surrounded & they were all trucked away & murdered in one huge gassing. Because of the nature of gypsies' life throughout Europe, there were no organized collectives, so there were no one per se to raise the alarm over their deaths. But am curious as to what parts of the facts about the Holocaust are propaganda. Absent the deniers' bias that is.
Posted on 2/3/23 at 3:08 pm to Mattmac920
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the same way they talk
Who is they?
50 posts in 2 and a half days. Talk less, think more.
Posted on 2/3/23 at 3:24 pm to Mattmac920
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Jews are great at pretending to be victims while they are the oppressors.
I'm not oppressing you, just pointing out you're uneducated and ill-informed.
Posted on 2/3/23 at 3:26 pm to Mattmac920
quote:ZOG!!!!!
all that matters is what they want you to think happened to Jews because they are your masters
Posted on 2/3/23 at 3:35 pm to Mattmac920
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Yeah no you’re right it’s Hindus that run every institution in America
It's Marxists and lefties that run all of that, genius. No Orthodox Jew would ever push what they're pushing on the world. Nancy Pelosi is not one of our tribe, she's Catholic.
Posted on 2/3/23 at 3:49 pm to Mattmac920
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Mattmac920
Member since Feb 2023
63 posts
We have to deal with this guy on here now?
63 posts on the poli board in under 2 days?
1) Is he a bot?
2) A loon?
3) A dem propagandist troll?
I vote #3
This post was edited on 2/3/23 at 3:50 pm
Posted on 2/3/23 at 3:51 pm to LemmyLives
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Nancy Pelosi is not one of our tribe, she's Catholic.
Whoa! We don’t claim her, no matter what she says!
CINO - Catholic in Name Only.
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