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re: Why do people vote to raise their property taxes?
Posted on 6/28/26 at 11:29 pm to Strannix
Posted on 6/28/26 at 11:29 pm to Strannix
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Why do people vote to raise their property taxes?
Because by and large people are stupid and buy into the “won’t someone think of the children?!” argument.
Not to mention they think going from 4% to 5% is a 1% increase as opposed to a 25% tax increase.
This post was edited on 6/28/26 at 11:32 pm
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Posted on 6/29/26 at 4:55 am to imjustafatkid
I’m convinced it’s how the bonds are written.
DO YOU VOTE FOR A NICE NEW PARK FOR CHILDREN? Yes or No?
The average ignorant voter can’t conceive of it costing them.
DO YOU VOTE FOR A NICE NEW PARK FOR CHILDREN? Yes or No?
The average ignorant voter can’t conceive of it costing them.
Posted on 6/29/26 at 7:30 am to wackatimesthree
Most merchants pay RENT.
Posted on 6/29/26 at 7:34 am to Strannix
It’s frequently worded like “Do you want teachers and police to get a raise?” Or “would you like the schools to get a new
Building and your street to stop flooding?”
There are times I have to read it thru twice before I understand what it says and I have a grad degree. Many of these yo-yos can’t read past the fourth grade level.
Building and your street to stop flooding?”
There are times I have to read it thru twice before I understand what it says and I have a grad degree. Many of these yo-yos can’t read past the fourth grade level.
Posted on 6/29/26 at 7:37 am to wackatimesthree
quote:. Section 8 renters do not. They pay the “baked in” property taxes with my tax money too.
For one, a good bit of the voters don’t pay any property tax Yes they do.
Posted on 6/29/26 at 7:40 am to Strannix
If it's for specific projects, I'm for it. For example, after Katrina, Ascension Parish population exploded. More schools were badly needed, and that's not something the state funds, nor does that come from sales taxes. Every time a vote was put on the ballot it passed, because everyone here saw the need. If Ascension did something like EBR did, and put up a large set of road widening projects, not just some turn lane bullshite, I guarantee it would pass. Same for a parishwide water treatment system so we can cover up some of these open ditches that everyone's septic tank runs into, which is why we don't have any damn shoulders on the roads. We all see the need. It's not going to some government worker pay raise, or retirement funds. It's going to a bond to fund actual projects that need to be built without any other funding mechanism to do so.
The real problem is all of the tax exemptions that the state and local government gives up for these huge mega projects in the parish. Not only do they choke up our already gridlocked road system, they're not paying into the system to improve it for many years.
The real problem is all of the tax exemptions that the state and local government gives up for these huge mega projects in the parish. Not only do they choke up our already gridlocked road system, they're not paying into the system to improve it for many years.
This post was edited on 6/29/26 at 7:47 am
Posted on 6/29/26 at 7:52 am to VOR
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Our neighborhood association was able to set up a security district with a private patrol by voting for a dedicated tax…
Wait, your specific neighborhood was allowed to add a special tax on everyone, to pay for your security? How the hell was that even allowed?
And not to mention the absurd hypocrisy of your post. I guess borders and security are ok for you, just not the United States, right?
Posted on 6/29/26 at 7:53 am to Logician
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Enthusiastically defends the party of no cops and being soft on crime, then turns around and pays extra for private security at his home
He ain't paying for that. Reread his post. Taxpayers are paying for his added security. Many of whom who do not live in his neighborhood. The hypocrisy from this dude is staggering.
Posted on 6/29/26 at 7:55 am to dovehunter
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Reducing taxes stimulates the economy
Only under certain conditions. It works to a positive effect if you have high unemployment. When you have what we have now, which is considered full employment, you're just going to cause demand-pull inflation and increase inflation even more.
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and reduces the deficit.
You realize that theory has never actually worked in history, right? Not when Regan did it, not when Bush did it, not in Trump's first term. The deficit increased in all cases.
It would work at the extreme ends of the Lafler Curve (like reducing income taxes from 95% to 30%), but where we sit in the curve the resulting bump in the economy only pays for about 10%-14% of the lost tax revenue (they have enough data to figure that out now) and the deficit increases.
There's no way where ur economy sits to cut taxes and not increase the deficit without also cutting spending. Sorry, no such thing as a free lunch.
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Being energy independent doesn't mean oil
O.k. Then what does it mean?
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Prices are fixed rather it's for national security which reduces interest rates.
The syntax here is so poor I don't know what you are saying.
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If people aren't taxed on the capital gains of their houses they'll sell them., Younger people can buy them. Right now prices are high because there is limited supply. Incentivize people to sell their houses. Increase the supply and prices won't be bid up they will be bid down. Faced with being taxed on the sale people won't sell. No supply higher prices. Affordability crisis.
If people aren't taxed on the sale of their houses then they will start aggressively buying and flipping them. Even if it's limited to primary residences. That will become people's primary investment strategy.
And the resulting increase in demand will cause the bidding frenzy and price increases I was talking about.
BTW, where do these older people live in your theory? Are they all going to nursing homes? If not, the supply vs demand problem still exists.
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It was done in the '90's.
No, prior to 1997 you could delay paying capital gains taxes, but all you did was kick the can down the road and roll them into a new property. You still owed them when you finally cashed out. And yeah, there was a one time exemption for people over 55 to exempt a portion of capital gains taxes.
This post was edited on 6/29/26 at 7:57 am
Posted on 6/29/26 at 7:57 am to weagle1999
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People who don’t ‘own’ property vote for it because want stuff and are too stupid to realize it is baked into their rents.
in precincts where there are no Section 8 and few renters they all passed with ease in Baton Rouge. I checked the precincts where large homes re located and was surprised. 60% Trump precincts all three times.
This post was edited on 6/29/26 at 7:59 am
Posted on 6/29/26 at 8:00 am to Strannix
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Why do people vote to raise their property taxes?
Voters, especially in Louisiana are stupid and ignorant of exactly what they are voting for or against. But it feels good to say "I voted".
Posted on 6/29/26 at 8:01 am to bluedragon
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Most merchants pay RENT.
And the landlord's expenses are factored into the RENT.
And property taxes are one of those expenses.
Posted on 6/29/26 at 8:10 am to wackatimesthree
And the cost is passed on to the consumer.
Imagine that.
Imagine that.
Posted on 6/29/26 at 8:22 am to VOR
This is likely particular to your own state and development.
More people would support things like this because they are much closer to benefiting from it than a raise in property taxes across a municipality.
More people would support things like this because they are much closer to benefiting from it than a raise in property taxes across a municipality.
Posted on 6/29/26 at 8:26 am to VOR
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Our neighborhood association was able to set up a security district with a private patrol by voting for a dedicated tax… It worked…
Why not just raise HOA dues for security rather than forcing a tax on everybody?
Posted on 6/29/26 at 8:32 am to rt3
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if it fails in a big election... just find a low turnout election to get it back on the ballot and pass
the answer to OPs question
Posted on 6/29/26 at 8:34 am to Strannix
There are a shitload of people who pay no property tax who can vote on tax issues
Local government is so huge I’d say many folks have family and close friends that are gov employees who are thought to benefit from additional taxes
Many fall for heroes and children and safety
That’s about 90% of voters i reckon.
Local government is so huge I’d say many folks have family and close friends that are gov employees who are thought to benefit from additional taxes
Many fall for heroes and children and safety
That’s about 90% of voters i reckon.
Posted on 6/29/26 at 8:45 am to bluedragon
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And the cost is passed on to the consumer.
Imagine that.
Yes.
That is the point.
Posted on 6/29/26 at 8:55 am to Night Vision
quote:Time to get honest.
You're paying $10K property taxes in LA?
Time to move.
Posted on 6/29/26 at 9:14 am to Strannix
If people “see” improvements in infrastructure they can be ok with paying more . Pay more, get more. I feel in Texas we have that. Yes, we have toll roads everywhere; but we also see new freeway after new freeway and freeway expansions happening. The Crescent city connection was a toll road forever mainly to line somebody’s pockets I guess , because they didn’t build any more highways with the money they were collecting
Same goes for schools, as Houston expands out to the north and west we see New , very nice looking , school campuses being built. I would feel much differently about paying property tax if my kid was in a class size of 40 with temporary building stocked on top of each other due to the lack of spend .
Same goes for schools, as Houston expands out to the north and west we see New , very nice looking , school campuses being built. I would feel much differently about paying property tax if my kid was in a class size of 40 with temporary building stocked on top of each other due to the lack of spend .
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