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re: Why do Jab bros get so bent out of shape if you bring up Vax injuries and deaths?

Posted on 1/8/23 at 12:45 pm to
Posted by Roaad
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Posted on 1/8/23 at 12:45 pm to
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Satanism obviously

Posted by jimmy the leg
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Posted on 1/8/23 at 12:45 pm to
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If you had covid at any point, you have the same ticking time bomb.


This is unknown.

You are no better than the sky screamers for putting that forth.
Posted by BamaScoop
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Posted on 1/8/23 at 12:46 pm to
Because they’ve been vaccinated and it’s fear. They know they are sheep and that’s hard to admit to yourself. It’s the same people that want to quit on Trump and go with DeSantis. They act like they think for themselves but they don’t they are just like the democratic sheep.

These shots are just now really kicking in and doing damage and it’s going to get a lot worse. They is no way to reverse what they have done to themselves.
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Posted on 1/8/23 at 12:47 pm to
Both are known to cause Myocarditis

However on Brett Weinstein's last Rogan, he showed studies proving Vax causes a higher rate of Myocarditis. It refuted that study the one guy showed Rogan a year ago.
Posted by nealnan8
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Posted on 1/8/23 at 12:50 pm to
It's because of the stupid way that they are presented by the poster. Without any other information people are quick to blame the jabs because they WANT it to be true.
Look, I think that the vaccines and booster shots are causing more deaths than usual. Even the CDC says that there is about a 40% increase in deaths between 19-49 yr. olds, but to opine that they are the reason every 18 yr old dies without any other info is ridiculous. For the last 20 years, there have been about 524,000 deaths for 18 yr. olds, per year. To read this board, you would think that all are due to the jabs.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 1/8/23 at 12:50 pm to
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This is unknown.


What? The effects on the heart from a Covid infection have been well documented since prior to the vaccine even being a concept.

The effects of Covid and the alleged affects of the vaccines are effectively the same (likely b/c the response caused by the vaccine is the same one done via natural immunity, which creates inflammation of the heart, just like with many viral infections).

Posted by davyjones
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Posted on 1/8/23 at 12:50 pm to
Man frick satanism. Now hedonism on the other hand, sheeit.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 1/8/23 at 12:52 pm to
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Look, I think that the vaccines and booster shots are causing more deaths than usual. Even the CDC says that there is about a 40% increase in deaths between 19-49 yr. olds, but to opine that they are the reason every 18 yr old dies without any other info is ridiculous. For the last 20 years, there have been about 524,000 deaths for 18 yr. olds, per year. To read this board, you would think that all are due to the jabs.


Posted by Roaad
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Posted on 1/8/23 at 12:55 pm to
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It's because of the stupid way that they are presented by the poster. Without any other information people are quick to blame the jabs because they WANT it to be true.
Look, I think that the vaccines and booster shots are causing more deaths than usual. Even the CDC says that there is about a 40% increase in deaths between 19-49 yr. olds, but to opine that they are the reason every 18 yr old dies without any other info is ridiculous. For the last 20 years, there have been about 524,000 deaths for 18 yr. olds, per year. To read this board, you would think that all are due to the jabs.


Posted by Clames
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Posted on 1/8/23 at 12:59 pm to
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The effects on the heart from a Covid infection have been well documented since prior to the vaccine even being a concept.


It's been known that the flu and common colds have effects of the heart too. In fact, pretty much any viral infection can impact the heart. The point is that those who touted the vaccines and mandates as totems and sound public health policy refused to accept the fact that a more nuanced and targeted plan of action was needed. The fact that there is increasing evidence that the vaccines for Covid, in younger and healthier populations, pose as much or greater risk of long term side effects, than simply contracting a given strain of the virus.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 1/8/23 at 1:03 pm to
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The point is that those who touted the vaccines and mandates as totems and sound public health policy refused to accept the fact that a more nuanced and targeted plan of action was needed.


I solved Covid in like April 2020

Posted by jimmy the leg
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Posted on 1/8/23 at 1:04 pm to
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The effects of Covid and the alleged affects of the vaccines are effectively the same (likely b/c the response caused by the vaccine is the same one done via natural immunity, which creates inflammation of the heart, just like with many viral infections).


Short term - yes.

Long term - who knows?

To state that you know is disingenuous.

Consider the following from a prior thread:

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Focusing on the spike proteins, we don’t know when the body stops making spike protein for a portion of those that are vaccinated. For the unvaxxed, the NIH reviewed autopsies of those that were immune suppressed and found that their body had spike proteins being replicated throughout the body (and for a good period of time).

However, it would seem that those with active immune systems were able to “turn off” the spike protein production once recovered from Covid.

As for the vaccinated, on the surface this potentially could be a much bigger concern (long term) for those that received MRNA related vaccines.

J&J and Astra-Zeneca we’re both nano-viral vectors that started with complimentary DNA. While nano-viral vectors have a history of potential clotting (a side effect that is well documented with these two) they do seem to mimic the natural response by eventually shutting down the production of spike proteins in otherwise healthy individuals.

As for the MRNA vaccines, I have yet to see anything that notes when (if ever) the spike proteins will cease to be produced. I would love to see the literature (if you can produce it) stating that the production definitively stops in otherwise healthy individuals. It seems as though the production of spike protein will occur wherever the lipid-nanoparticle distributes (including crossing the blood/brain barrier). The production can be (is) prolific. In addition to binding with the aforementioned CD147, and ACE2 receptors, it also has been shown to bond with the p53 tumor suppressor gene, as well as genes associated with breast and ovarian cancers. The uptick in unusual cancers may be related to these issues, especially in younger people. Time and studies will tell. Nonetheless, the types of cancers (including those supposedly once in remission) are on the uptick. This is undeniable and observable (I have linked info previously regarding the US Military). Lastly, the spike protein may be inhibiting our immune system as well (for examples...t-cell suppression and type 1 interferon). As such, the spike proteins may be related to various health concerns (such as “Long Covid,” which correlates [50%+] to Epstein-Barr...which correlates to certain cancers).


The continued production of spike proteins is not some that seems to be studied (at all). The theory is that if this is occurring, then where the spike protein “factories” are established will determine the timeframe for issues to be noticed. Heart and brain, fairly quickly, elsewhere...who knows.

Again, this is based on speculation and may not come to fruition.

That being said, a study or two sure would be nice. I wouldn’t hold my breath if I were you.
Posted by Roaad
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Posted on 1/8/23 at 1:06 pm to
How many early "covid" deaths were due to ventilator use?

That is at least a question worth asking.

Maybe it wasn't as dangerous as we were led to believe, in the early stages. . .but rather the initial medical response to it. Not blaming the doctors, they were trying to figure it out, too.
Posted by LRB1967
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Posted on 1/8/23 at 1:06 pm to
The truth hurts.
Posted by Bass Tiger
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Posted on 1/8/23 at 1:09 pm to
Primarily it's about being duped and having to admit they were duped. It's not easy to admit you're wrong when you are so heavily invested in a decision you made that is proving to be the wrong decision.
Posted by jimmy the leg
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Posted on 1/8/23 at 1:15 pm to

May of those cases in the red portion of your graph were the result of political decisions, not prudent medical ones. As such, even the graph, which allowed you to “solve Covid,” is skewed from the norm.

Again, from a prior thread:
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at one point, 45% of all Covid deaths were concentrated in .06% of the population (nursing homes). The vast majority of those deaths (at the time) were in NY, NJ, Michigan, Washington, and Pennsylvania.

The irony is that the Director of Pennsylvania’s Dept of Health removed his mom from a nursing home the day before the isolation order was issued.



Who was the guy that did that?






Posted by Lsut81
Member since Jun 2005
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Posted on 1/8/23 at 1:19 pm to
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Every death with Covid was counted as a Covid death, did you bitch about that?


Actually, yes….

So now what’s your retort?
Posted by shadyshane1986
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Posted on 1/8/23 at 1:21 pm to
Honest question. I made a huge mistake in getting 1 moderna covid shot. I honestly didnt want to and should'nt of. However, my job was requiring it and I have a family to support. Can yall give me a honest assessment on if this affects the people who got more than 1 or are me and my wife going to die soon. Ill be honest its been really bugging me and hope someone on here has more insight.
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Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 1/8/23 at 1:21 pm to
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Actually, yes….

So now what’s your retort?


Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 1/8/23 at 1:21 pm to
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or are me and my wife dead

You're actually posting from Purgatory
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