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re: Why are so many employers not able to get or keep employees?

Posted on 5/14/22 at 10:59 pm to
Posted by RDOtiger
Zachary
Member since Oct 2013
1146 posts
Posted on 5/14/22 at 10:59 pm to
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Another dynamic is that things often move towards the complicated, not towards the simple. Some of this seems to be caused by having to "fix" problems that have occurred, perhaps because someone along the way has screwed something up (or maybe because someone new came along and thought a certain way was better). Either way, more administrative controls seem to get put in place all the time (some good, some bad), but often increasing the work load (not decreasing) for fewer people available. Although the original intent may be good, over time, the administrative controls lose their original intent and get (mis)interpreted and sometimes leads to people doing more things to CYA rather than doing what make sense for a certain situation, leaving more and more work to do for an originally simpler task that at one time was also done in a sufficient manner without the same administrative controls.


I’m picking up what you’re putting down. But, there has to be a much simpler and succinct way of stating this - maybe bureaucratic BS making easy tasks very difficult?
Posted by Eurocat
Member since Apr 2004
15049 posts
Posted on 5/15/22 at 8:48 pm to
If those jobs don't cover rents, who is renting the apartments or are they empty.
Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
21872 posts
Posted on 5/15/22 at 8:52 pm to
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I didn’t even get to eat there which is a lingering regret in my life.


Go to the Walmart that’s on the poor side of town. Set up a table slam in the middle of it and eat your dinner.

That’s Golden Corral.
Posted by tiggerthetooth
Big Momma's House
Member since Oct 2010
61348 posts
Posted on 5/15/22 at 8:59 pm to
The difference between working some of the available jobs and staying at home doing nothing is very little.


Subtract like $40k from whatever your salary is and that's what you really work for.
Posted by davyjones
NELA
Member since Feb 2019
30257 posts
Posted on 5/15/22 at 9:05 pm to
That’s free entertainment. Just as long as they don’t get near me because they’re infested with shite.

Naw I kid, they’re my people actually. In spirit.
Posted by Rza32
Member since Nov 2008
3617 posts
Posted on 5/15/22 at 10:14 pm to
What free money?
Posted by KiwiHead
Auckland, NZ
Member since Jul 2014
27722 posts
Posted on 5/16/22 at 6:46 am to
That's my question as well. The supplemental has not been in place for over a year. What we have on the lower professional end ( hygienist for example) is a lag due to the schools being shut down essentially for more than a year. On the lower end service jobs the 17-21 age cohort is staying home....and anecdotally there are a lot that are working doordash, Uber eats and the like. I knew an optician who was laid off in 2020 and started doing instacart and Shipt and was making 30% more a week. She makes her own hours and some nights runs Doordarshan. She says you would not believe the activity of Doordash after 730 -800 at night for just minor shite like Ice Cream where people will pay the premium to have it delivered. She did not go back to her optician job... itdoes not pay enough and she was making about 37500 a year there. Says she is making about 900 -1000 a week delivering to the Karens of the Northshore
Posted by double d
Amarillo by morning
Member since Jun 2004
16449 posts
Posted on 5/16/22 at 7:01 am to
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Having said that, if someone wants a hardworking and devoted employee, please contact me!!


Bet most of the companies say get the shot and we'll hire you. Sad but it does happen.
Posted by monsterballads
Make LSU Great Again
Member since Jun 2013
29267 posts
Posted on 5/16/22 at 7:09 am to
Businesses like those want to pay $10/hr. If they paid more, they’d get better quality people to work there. It’s basic economics. These businesses owners complain that “no one wants to work anymore!”

No. People don’t want to work for the peanuts that you’re trying to pay them.
Posted by concrete_tiger
Member since May 2020
6060 posts
Posted on 5/16/22 at 7:13 am to
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This is because they can turn around and tell the government that there just aren’t enough people able to do these jobs and then bring in hordes of H1B people from India to work 20 hours a day for peanuts.


Dong ding ding.

Come to Alpharetta, GA. Verizon and others import Indians by the boatload. Going to Walmart is like the airport…play the spot a white guy game!

Elementary schools swamped with non-English speaking kids. Almost every woman you see is pregnant.

If stores or fast food have staff, you can bet they aren’t native speakers. Went to Kohl’s the other day, and 90% of staff spoke barely any English and were useless beyond stocking shelves.

We let our employers get away with it. It’s fricking bullshite and I’m sick of it.
This post was edited on 5/16/22 at 7:24 am
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
99119 posts
Posted on 5/16/22 at 7:14 am to
One word:

Government
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
111596 posts
Posted on 5/16/22 at 7:15 am to
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Businesses like those want to pay $10/hr. If they paid more, they’d get better quality people to work there.


Nobody is paying $10/hr. Every fast food and otherwise introductory position is paying $12-$15/hr. That’s not attracting “better quality employees.”
Posted by monsterballads
Make LSU Great Again
Member since Jun 2013
29267 posts
Posted on 5/16/22 at 7:43 am to
Even if it’s $15 those workers can go elsewhere and make better money even as unskilled workers.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
111596 posts
Posted on 5/16/22 at 7:44 am to
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Even if it’s $15 those workers can go elsewhere and make better money even as unskilled workers.


You’re arguing against yourself.
Posted by Smokeyone
Maryville Tn
Member since Jul 2016
16070 posts
Posted on 5/16/22 at 7:45 am to
Because millennials are self entitled cuunts that believe the world owes them a living.
Posted by dr
texas
Member since Mar 2022
1123 posts
Posted on 5/16/22 at 7:50 am to
the food industry does not actually pay per hour

they jack your tips, call it your wage, and if you fall short, then they pony up to pay

food industry has never covered the labor cost like any other normal businesses

the customers have always paid for the labor, and the tip you leave is actually helping the business make more money, not the server

all my kids worked service industry, work 40 hours, and chili's writes a check for $8, tips paid the rest of the labor.

the tips should have been extra above your minimum pay, that is/was the spirit of tipping

the restaurant business model has been flawed from the beginning, and the IRS policies are the only thing that keeps it afloat

now the birds are coming back to roost

sorry, but not sorry
Posted by TheHarahanian
Actually not Harahan as of 6/2023
Member since May 2017
19563 posts
Posted on 5/16/22 at 7:51 am to

My company recognized a retention issue about 8 months ago, and issued a 5% across the board cost of living increase, followed 3 months later by a 10% increase for all employees who bill customers, then our regular performance increases last month.

Keeping people financially secure is a way to keep them with you.
Posted by redneck hippie
Stillwater
Member since Dec 2008
5601 posts
Posted on 5/16/22 at 8:09 am to
In Oklahoma, if you just show up to work you can make $20/hr trimming weed or working on a weed farm, paid in cash.
Restaurants can't compete with that.

Posted by SantaFe
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2019
6605 posts
Posted on 5/16/22 at 9:24 am to
During the height of the Plandemic many realized that they hated their deadend job.
The Plandemic gave them a chance to become an artist, poet, carpenter, or a chance to travel the world.
Why be poor flipping burgers when you be poor in Tibet or be a backup singer for Garth Brooks?

Times change and those fast food jobs were originally meant for high school teenagers to make money to go to college and not to raise a family of four on. Now high school teens don't want those jobs so now it is a perfect time to get the Robots into Takoo Bell to make the tacos.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
111596 posts
Posted on 5/16/22 at 10:13 am to
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the food industry does not actually pay per hour


What are you on about? Almost every fast casual pays per hour for line employees. Every fast food restaurant pays by the hour. And they’re starting at $12/hr minimum. Often $14-$15/hr.
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