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re: Why are so many employers not able to get or keep employees?

Posted on 5/16/22 at 12:42 pm to
Posted by hawkeye007
Member since Feb 2010
5854 posts
Posted on 5/16/22 at 12:42 pm to
alot of low income people who where affected by coivd had a year plus of extra benifits. it seems like alot of them took that time and extra money and moved on from thier shitty jobs. benifits have ran out on the federal level and the state level. so that's not the problem. Wages have been below inflation rates for 20yrs. Now we have the problem that comes with that. People moving on to better paying jobs. i always wondered how chick-fila always had better fast food employees than everyone else in the industry. well $17 an hour will get you a better class of employee than $10hr will every day and it shows.
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
37106 posts
Posted on 5/16/22 at 12:42 pm to
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We need more automation.


That was a great idea when we had 9 people working at once in a fast food restaurant.

But... if companies can get by with 3 people working at once - if the customers will accept that - that's an even greater deal than automation.
Posted by El Segundo Guy
SE OK
Member since Aug 2014
9607 posts
Posted on 5/16/22 at 12:43 pm to
Ok. I'm 47. I quit working on Feb 28, 2020 right before the pandemic kickoff.

I'm fortunate enough to have made some wise and lucky investments over 25 years and have a good income. My wife works because she enjoys her job but she could quit any day she felt like it. She's 41.

I could be in the workforce grinding away. I could be helping the GDP, I could be paying more taxes, etc. I could also be bring in additional wealth.

But I did the math 2 years ago and realized that my income from my job was not enough to justify working. We didn't need the money and my time was better spent hunting and fishing and enjoying life. I tell people that I do truly have the best life of anyone I know.

Posted by El Segundo Guy
SE OK
Member since Aug 2014
9607 posts
Posted on 5/16/22 at 12:49 pm to
"But what I've got is mine
I ain't rich
But Lord, I'm free
Lake Texoma by mornin'
Lake Texoma's where I'll be"

King George
Posted by dr
texas
Member since Mar 2022
1110 posts
Posted on 5/16/22 at 12:58 pm to
the restaurant pays 10/hr
you work 10 hours

you make $50 in tips
restaurant pays $50 to make up the difference

if you make $100 or more in tips,
restaurant pays NOTHING

they do not pay minimum wage, they only cover the distance between it and tips
Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
21793 posts
Posted on 5/16/22 at 12:59 pm to
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I'm fortunate enough to have made some wise and lucky investments over 25 years and have a good income.


I hope you don't think I'm throwing you in the leech crowd; I'm talking about people who have decided their standard of living on government assistance is high enough not to go back to work. If someone is making their own way they don't owe a thing to "the economy", the government or anybody else.
Posted by TrussvilleTide
The Endless Void
Member since Sep 2021
4069 posts
Posted on 5/16/22 at 1:07 pm to
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Hard work is no longer cool.


Yeah like "Hard Work" was cool anytime in the past 50-100 years

Do you Boomers even think about what you're saying half the time? Suddenly when the market makes a drastic change and employee compensation is rising there are a lot of shite jobs without people to fill them... you think people just now decided to be lazy? What were they doing before COVID?
Posted by TrussvilleTide
The Endless Void
Member since Sep 2021
4069 posts
Posted on 5/16/22 at 1:14 pm to
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Young people today were raised with self esteem promotion....participation trophies, 'A' for effort, etc.


The Boomer participation trophy was buying a house for $10k, sitting on it for a few decades, and selling it for $500k

The younger generation isn't perfect by any stretch, but they also started up during a much tougher time to be successful than the olds. A degree becoming a standard requirement for a lot of entry level jobs in good industries has done a ton of damage.
Posted by TrussvilleTide
The Endless Void
Member since Sep 2021
4069 posts
Posted on 5/16/22 at 1:17 pm to
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Dong ding ding.

Come to Alpharetta, GA. Verizon and others import Indians by the boatload. Going to Walmart is like the airport…play the spot a white guy game!

Elementary schools swamped with non-English speaking kids. Almost every woman you see is pregnant.

If stores or fast food have staff, you can bet they aren’t native speakers. Went to Kohl’s the other day, and 90% of staff spoke barely any English and were useless beyond stocking shelves.

We let our employers get away with it. It’s fricking bullshite and I’m sick of it


Wait til factories start coming back here, construction funded by taxpayers with promises of good paying jobs, then they rug pull and automate the entire thing after 5-10 years
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
111546 posts
Posted on 5/16/22 at 1:33 pm to
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they do not pay minimum wage, they only cover the distance between it and tips


You are economically illiterate. I don’t know who told you this, but this isn’t even close to true for non-waiter jobs. It’s also not completely accurate for waitstaff jobs.
Posted by concrete_tiger
Member since May 2020
6021 posts
Posted on 5/16/22 at 1:44 pm to
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Went to Kohl’s the other day, and 90% of staff spoke barely any English and were useless beyond stocking shelves.


I don’t think Kohls is using H1B to hire cashiers.


Who is married to the H1-B?
Hint, it rhymes with H-4.

My kids schools are packed with H-4 kids.
Posted by Zach
Gizmonic Institute
Member since May 2005
112494 posts
Posted on 5/16/22 at 1:46 pm to
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The Boomer participation trophy was buying a house for $10k, sitting on it for a few decades, and selling it for $500k


Uh, that never happened unless you bought a house near the Golden Gate Bridge while it was being built.
Posted by SleepyJoe
Member since Apr 2022
451 posts
Posted on 5/16/22 at 2:14 pm to
Man these replies are something else.

I’m one of the sorry lazy ones that makes the choice not to work. The government has never wasted taxpayer money like they have in the last two years. Why do I want to work to feed that wasteful machine? Yeah let me go bust my arse to pay taxes and take pride in giving it to people that want to wipe me off the face of the earth, how patriotic of you. Working to fund the lifestyles of millions of new “citizens” that will vote against my best interests. No thanks

Now I do realize there are millions of lazy people who just do not want to work. Millions of people that don’t have to work. Why? Because you are ok with funding it. You get the bill for them sitting on their arse and you keep paying it.

I’m not on any kind of government assistance, but I will milk it for every penny I legally can at some point though. Now tighten your arse up and get back to work, my bills ain’t gonna pay themselves
Posted by OU Guy
Member since Feb 2022
8262 posts
Posted on 5/16/22 at 2:55 pm to
How many sneakers and tvs qnd other goods were stolen during the summer of burn loot murder? Billions.

My guess is they’re still living off those stolen goods and basements are still half full of the stuff. Some might be out or getting close so look for a new summer/fall season of burn loot muder part two to restock.
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