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re: Why are so many employers not able to get or keep employees?
Posted on 5/14/22 at 9:02 pm to broski722
Posted on 5/14/22 at 9:02 pm to broski722
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They don't even want to pay money to smart/qualified people. Check out jobs in the tech/IT industry. They want you have a CVS receipt's list of qualifications but want to low ball the hell out of you at the same time.
This is because they can turn around and tell the government that there just aren’t enough people able to do these jobs and then bring in hordes of H1B people from India to work 20 hours a day for peanuts.
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Posted on 5/14/22 at 9:08 pm to Sasquatch45
I am an able bodied and experienced offshore hand that cannot work because I did not take the vaccine!! I am on unpaid administrative leave because my company is a coward and will not fight for their employees!!!!
Posted on 5/14/22 at 9:11 pm to SortsaUsl
Having said that, if someone wants a hardworking and devoted employee, please contact me!!
Posted on 5/14/22 at 9:13 pm to Sasquatch45
It seems that the average age of the workforce has been increasing and more people retiring. People from working families may also be having less kids leaving less domestic born working people available requiring incentives to bring foreigner born people to fill the gaps. I honestly do not see the work ethic to be much different among generations. There are both lazy people and people with good work ethic (old and young) in my experience.
Another dynamic is that things often move towards the complicated, not towards the simple. Some of this seems to be caused by having to "fix" problems that have occurred, perhaps because someone along the way has screwed something up (or maybe because someone new came along and thought a certain way was better). Either way, more administrative controls seem to get put in place all the time (some good, some bad), but often increasing the work load (not decreasing) for fewer people available. Although the original intent may be good, over time, the administrative controls lose their original intent and get (mis)interpreted and sometimes leads to people doing more things to CYA rather than doing what make sense for a certain situation, leaving more and more work to do for an originally simpler task that at one time was also done in a sufficient manner without the same administrative controls.
Another dynamic is that things often move towards the complicated, not towards the simple. Some of this seems to be caused by having to "fix" problems that have occurred, perhaps because someone along the way has screwed something up (or maybe because someone new came along and thought a certain way was better). Either way, more administrative controls seem to get put in place all the time (some good, some bad), but often increasing the work load (not decreasing) for fewer people available. Although the original intent may be good, over time, the administrative controls lose their original intent and get (mis)interpreted and sometimes leads to people doing more things to CYA rather than doing what make sense for a certain situation, leaving more and more work to do for an originally simpler task that at one time was also done in a sufficient manner without the same administrative controls.
Posted on 5/14/22 at 9:14 pm to Sasquatch45
The real answer that nobody is ready for is VR porn. These days once you’ve made a few hundred dollars to get a headset you really don’t need anything else. I’m hesitant to add in a fleshlight because I’m scared I’ll never come out.
Posted on 5/14/22 at 9:18 pm to Sasquatch45
You create an incentive for people not to work by paying them.
If we have to pay people we should at least be getting something in return.
If we have to pay people we should at least be getting something in return.
Posted on 5/14/22 at 9:24 pm to OysterPoBoy
Another thing is people have gotten used to not "having it all" now.
There used to be a lot of places in New York where you could grab some chow at 3am. Diners, Late Night Bars, Fast Food.
Now because nobody wants to work late nights (which I can understand, you want to make french fries at 2am for 15 bucks an hour?) almost all places close at Midnight, some stay open all night on weekends.
Oddly a good business now is strip tease bars, most here serve food, burgers, tenders, and are open til 5am by law. Guys tell their wives they were late because they grabbed a bit after getting off the train at the XXXLounge and half the time they actually are telling the truth.
There used to be a lot of places in New York where you could grab some chow at 3am. Diners, Late Night Bars, Fast Food.
Now because nobody wants to work late nights (which I can understand, you want to make french fries at 2am for 15 bucks an hour?) almost all places close at Midnight, some stay open all night on weekends.
Oddly a good business now is strip tease bars, most here serve food, burgers, tenders, and are open til 5am by law. Guys tell their wives they were late because they grabbed a bit after getting off the train at the XXXLounge and half the time they actually are telling the truth.
Posted on 5/14/22 at 9:40 pm to Eurocat
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There used to be a lot of places in New York where you could grab some chow at 3am. Diners, Late Night Bars, Fast Food.
Now because nobody wants to work late nights (which I can understand, you want to make french fries at 2am for 15 bucks an hour?) almost all places close at Midnight, some stay open all night on weekends.
meh it's the cost of living and rents going up
now those jobs don't cover rents
Posted on 5/14/22 at 9:42 pm to Sasquatch45
I've been told I'm an insufferable a-hole so maybe that is why I have recently had difficulty in keeping employees.
Posted on 5/14/22 at 9:54 pm to Eli Goldfinger
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Unskilled workers that are moderately motivated are doing gig jobs. Stuff like uber, delivering groceries, and/or whatever other gig stuff is out there.
I believe this has hurt the restaurant industry. I've read before where a lot of restaurant cooks are leaving their jobs to be drivers for Uber Eats, DoorDash, Instacart, etc...
Posted on 5/14/22 at 9:59 pm to VADawg
Shhyeah it has hurt the restaurant industry. We had a damn Golden Corral in West Monroe for all of about half a year before covids shut it down permanently. Which is actually a crazy situation. They build that nrand new structure and within a year they put the kibosh on it. I didn’t even get to eat there which is a lingering regret in my life.
Posted on 5/14/22 at 10:00 pm to Sasquatch45
It is absolutely ridiculous this labor shortage.
We’ve been trying to find help for over a year at almost every position and can’t get it.
I don’t know where all these people are but if they’re just sitting at home that desperately needs to be addressed.
We need to bring manufacturing back to this country.
We don’t produce anymore. We just consume. That’s not sustainable. We’re a cancerous locust farm right now not a self sustaining organism.
We’ve been trying to find help for over a year at almost every position and can’t get it.
I don’t know where all these people are but if they’re just sitting at home that desperately needs to be addressed.
We need to bring manufacturing back to this country.
We don’t produce anymore. We just consume. That’s not sustainable. We’re a cancerous locust farm right now not a self sustaining organism.
Posted on 5/14/22 at 10:06 pm to Nguyener
For the first time in US history, labor has the upper hand. Either labor will get hungry or employers will break. Neither has happened yet, but it’s going to be very interesting to see who blinks first.
Posted on 5/14/22 at 10:08 pm to td1
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For the first time in US history, labor has the upper hand. Either labor will get hungry or employers will break. Neither has happened yet, but it’s going to be very interesting to see who blinks first.
Explain further. What would employers breaking look like?
Posted on 5/14/22 at 10:12 pm to Sasquatch45
Why would I work for someone else during this time when I can start my own business and work for myself? I just did it.
Posted on 5/14/22 at 10:16 pm to VADawg
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I believe this has hurt the restaurant industry.
Absolutely.
Restaurants are now getting the bottom of the barrel. I’ve also noticed servers are getting older.
Posted on 5/14/22 at 10:19 pm to NOLAVOL16
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This is because they can turn around and tell the government that there just aren’t enough people able to do these jobs and then bring in hordes of H1B people from India to work 20 hours a day for peanuts.
There are literally consulting firms that hold paid seminars on how to turn down qualified American tech workers and claim to the government that they in turn need cheap Indian H-1b’s, and do it in such a way that skirt labor laws.
Fake job ads and H1B’s
Posted on 5/14/22 at 10:28 pm to Sasquatch45
Have to define what level of employer.
Job postings requiring years of experience, education and certain skills ( higher earning jobs) seem to have numerous applications submitted.
Now employers such as McDonalds who are looking for low wage applicants, well that's another story.
Job postings requiring years of experience, education and certain skills ( higher earning jobs) seem to have numerous applications submitted.
Now employers such as McDonalds who are looking for low wage applicants, well that's another story.
Posted on 5/14/22 at 10:34 pm to Nguyener
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Explain further. What would employers breaking look like?
Employers are purchasing a product when they hire labor. Ostensibly they do so because it will help increase profit to such a point that it justifies the cost of their purchase. You mentioned you haven’t been able to find employees for over a year, is that costing you money or are you leaving money in the table you could make of you had employees? If so, then eventually you will up the wages enough to attract employees or you won’t and someone will. It’s no different than any other product. Supply/demand
Posted on 5/14/22 at 10:41 pm to Eli Goldfinger
I’m mid 30s and I really don’t eat out (dine in). With 3 kids, work, other stuff and the little time I get with having issues finding a sitter, we don’t go out like ever. We do order some food and pick it up to support the local businesses.
This post was edited on 5/14/22 at 10:45 pm
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