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Posted on 11/10/26 at 7:30 am to
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
487802 posts
Posted on 11/10/26 at 7:30 am to
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. Trump was elected with a mandate to fix immigration and the economy.

By the hardcore who would vote for him no matter what.

The larger electorate gave him no mandate and the votes who swing elections were just rejecting the DEMs.

The large swing was a combination of MAGA/Trump's overconvidence in the Idiocracy, turning off the middle/moderate bloc that swings elections AND having many former true believers reject him for Iran/the economy. The DEMs would have done well only with the former...it's the latter that made it a tsunami

*ETA: and DEMS are likely to engage in the same irrationality via overconfidence and turn off that middle/moderate bloc, like they did in 2024
This post was edited on 11/10/26 at 7:32 am
Posted by aTmTexas Dillo
East Texas Lake
Member since Sep 2018
25725 posts
Posted on 11/10/26 at 7:33 am to
Well that explanation is a ray of hope. But before this all happens will we kiss the EC and 2nd goodbye? And will I stay at the 20% marginal tax rate?

And republicans have to get the next generation of politicians running for office. I am an old guy and I loathe the old republican politicians we currently have. Democrats have kicked our asses relative to age and demographics.
This post was edited on 11/10/26 at 7:36 am
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
487802 posts
Posted on 11/10/26 at 7:35 am to
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But before this all happens will we kiss the EC and 2nd goodbye?

They can't really do anything in TX to repeal the 2A

I can't speak for temporary everyday carry policy in TX, though. That would be just the type of temporary action that ensures death in the next election, though, so it's a classic short term loss/long term gain scenario.
Posted by Blizzard of Chizz
Member since Apr 2012
21862 posts
Posted on 11/10/26 at 7:53 am to
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And I'll fricking do it again


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People like you are the reason this country has gone to shite,


This is hilarious coming from someone openly bragging about knifing the party and gladly doing it again. This is why many “conservatives” can’t build coalitions around otherwise good ideas. You alienate the very people you need to advance your agenda forward because the moment you don’t get YOUR way you throw in with Dems. You dumbasses have never figured out how to eat an elephant one bite at a time. You demand your colleagues eat the entire elephant at once, and when they refuse you set the kitchen on fire so no one can eat. Then you have the nerve to lecture them that it’s their fault you burned the damn building down.
Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
29324 posts
Posted on 11/10/26 at 7:55 am to
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Will republicans ever come back in a lifetime?


I was trying to find info about this energy stuff and read just a bit about her. Two years ago her father resigned as Dem chair in Texas because they got absolutely pummeled. A lot can happen in two years.
Posted by Swamp Angel
West Georgia Chicken Farm Territory
Member since Jul 2004
10830 posts
Posted on 11/10/26 at 8:03 am to
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White Flag Republicans


Don't look at the electorate for "White Flag Republicans." Look at those who sit on the floor of the House and Senate. They had the majority in both and did absolutely diddly-squat with it. They make the cheese-eating-surrender-monkeys of France look valiant in comparison. They did absolutely NOTHING to further or protect individual American liberty against the continual erosion brought to us by the Dem party. All they know how to do is complain that they can't do anything because of the Dems - no matter who holds the majority of seats at any given time.
Posted by Jumbo_Gumbo
Denham Springs
Member since Dec 2015
5993 posts
Posted on 11/10/26 at 8:57 am to
The sooner it all comes crashing down, the sooner we can rebuild. I still voted Rep, but i get why some want to just crash the car at this point. If we will have years of struggle i would rather it happen now when i am physically and mentally capable to participate.
Posted by 50_Tiger
Arlington TX
Member since Jan 2016
44085 posts
Posted on 11/10/26 at 9:17 am to
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This is hilarious coming from someone openly bragging about knifing the party and gladly doing it again. This is why many “conservatives” can’t build coalitions around otherwise good ideas. You alienate the very people you need to advance your agenda forward because the moment you don’t get YOUR way you throw in with Dems. You dumbasses have never figured out how to eat an elephant one bite at a time. You demand your colleagues eat the entire elephant at once, and when they refuse you set the kitchen on fire so no one can eat. Then you have the nerve to lecture them that it’s their fault you burned the damn building down.



The first party that actually values folks under 45 will win absolute power.

Guess what: Bozo Dems are ahead of Republicans here.
Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
43341 posts
Posted on 11/10/26 at 10:00 am to
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This is hilarious coming from someone openly bragging about knifing the party and gladly doing it again. This is why many “conservatives” can’t build coalitions around otherwise good ideas. You alienate the very people you need to advance your agenda forward because the moment you don’t get YOUR way you throw in with Dems. You dumbasses have never figured out how to eat an elephant one bite at a time. You demand your colleagues eat the entire elephant at once, and when they refuse you set the kitchen on fire so no one can eat. Then you have the nerve to lecture them that it’s their fault you burned the damn building down.


Keep supporting neocons instead of conservatives and keep losing to democrats.

That's your choice. What I'm saying is not a threat, it's the reality.

People like you always expect everyone else to change. frick you.



This post was edited on 11/10/26 at 10:01 am
Posted by Auburn1968
NYC
Member since Mar 2019
28201 posts
Posted on 11/10/26 at 10:37 am to
The GOP ran the worse campaign against a target rich environment I've ever seen. The attack ads were few and far between and were mostly marshmallows at that.
Posted by SlidellCajun
Slidell la
Member since May 2019
17619 posts
Posted on 11/10/26 at 10:40 am to
Stop trying to deflect

This loss is all on Trump

He picked up marginal and independent voters in 2024 and lost them en masse in a 2 year period as he behaved liked a child, lied, waged war and raised prices on Americans.

This is ALL on Trump

Some say It’s the worst november swing ever seen
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
48701 posts
Posted on 11/10/26 at 10:46 am to
I think people are way overreacting to this election. This pendulum shift in a mid term is somewhat expected and its usually much worse.

Republicans need to make a decision. Either they are going to reform elections or they are going to hit the ground and canvass like the dems do. Right now, they are doing neither, and that's why they lost.
Posted by Blizzard of Chizz
Member since Apr 2012
21862 posts
Posted on 11/10/26 at 10:50 am to
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People like you always expect everyone else to change. frick you.


As per usual this is why great conservative ideas go nowhere. It’s always your way or the highway and a frick you when you don’t get your way. There’s a reason why the usual suspects are always yapping but never accomplish anything. Burning bridges politically, socially or professionally is not the principled negotiating tactic you think it is.
Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
43341 posts
Posted on 11/10/26 at 10:52 am to
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As per usual this is why great conservative ideas go nowhere. It’s always your way or the highway and a frick you when you don’t get your way. There’s a reason why the usual suspects are always yapping but never accomplish anything. Burning bridges politically, socially or professionally is not the principled negotiating tactic you think it is.


Enjoy your democrat overlords while blaming everyone else for not voting for your shitty neocon policies.

Let's see your great skills of compromise and getting something accomplished.



This post was edited on 11/10/26 at 10:53 am
Posted by Giantkiller
the internet.
Member since Sep 2007
26440 posts
Posted on 11/10/26 at 10:59 am to
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White Flag Republicans



They never got over Ron. You had to have kind of known this all along, no? They were never actually Trump supporters. You may have had them on a string a little bit but they were always waiting for this moment.

It's why Republicans are such perennial, lifetime failures.

Democrats don't do this stupid shite, but you can always depend on Republicans to stomp all over their own dicks.
Posted by HailToTheChiz
Back in Auburn
Member since Aug 2010
55458 posts
Posted on 11/10/26 at 11:00 am to
Why would you keep rewarding the people spitting in your face? The republicans don't have your best interest at heart. They all need to lose their positions
Posted by Blizzard of Chizz
Member since Apr 2012
21862 posts
Posted on 11/10/26 at 11:10 am to
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Why would you keep rewarding the people spitting in your face?


Let’s see, probably because the alternative of getting bent over and long dicked by the crazy Dems is a lot less appealing.

You might want to pay attention. Dems are bricked up on gas station dick hard pills, and they’re letting you know they’re fresh out of lube.
Posted by MrLSU
Yellowstone, Val d'isere
Member since Jan 2004
30587 posts
Posted on 11/10/26 at 11:14 am to
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Don Jr. explained it. The Trump coalition brought in a bunch of Dems and independents and they bailed.


The same Don Jr who is no longer on speaking terms with his father because he was grifting behind the scenes? You know the same the one that Sr. refused to attend his latest wedding and publicly rebuked him for having a Russian oligarch pay for the wedding. Is this who you want us to listen too?
Posted by Robin Masters
Birmingham
Member since Jul 2010
37100 posts
Posted on 11/10/26 at 11:28 am to
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Because republicans didn't vote for republicans. I voted, I did not vote for republicans at the federal level. I skipped every one of them. I did vote straight republican at the state level.


Republicans added about 1MM votes from last midterms

Democrats added almost 20MM

Again, your premise is not supported by the numbers.
Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
43341 posts
Posted on 11/10/26 at 11:35 am to
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Republicans added about 1MM votes from last midterms

Democrats added almost 20MM

Again, your premise is not supported by the numbers.


People were more motivated to vote in this midterm for obvious reasons. That doesn't change the fact.

As such when you look at the 2024 election rather then the 2022 midterm, you'll see democrat votes only dropped by 5 million while republican votes dropped by 21 million.

DeSantis highlighted this in Florida where the amount of people registered to vote republican and the actual votes for republican were much different.

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