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Where is the proof that the unvaccinated transmit the disease more than the vaccinated?
Posted on 9/9/21 at 10:41 am
Posted on 9/9/21 at 10:41 am
Do studies show this, or is this just the prevailing opinion of the same knuckleheads who have been wrong about the origin of the virus, masks, the immunity of both the vaccinated and the folks who recovered, the funding of gain of function, and the efficacy of Ivermectin/Hydroxychloroquine?
Just curious. All of the articles that I have read on this just make the statement without anything to back it up, other than statements from the CDC/NIH.
The only evidence seems to be the hospitalization rates, which seem to be dramatically different between the US and other countries, so I question those numbers.
Just curious. All of the articles that I have read on this just make the statement without anything to back it up, other than statements from the CDC/NIH.
The only evidence seems to be the hospitalization rates, which seem to be dramatically different between the US and other countries, so I question those numbers.
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Posted on 9/9/21 at 10:42 am to Jax-Tiger
Vaccinated are able to carry a higher load of this shite, they are superspreader pod people.
Posted on 9/9/21 at 10:42 am to Jax-Tiger
I think it’s in the footnotes of the mask efficacy studies.
Posted on 9/9/21 at 10:43 am to Jax-Tiger
There is no proof .
Posted on 9/9/21 at 10:44 am to Jax-Tiger
The studies I’ve seen actually show the opposite. The difference is that those who are vaccinated tend to get less sick and not require hospitalization at nearly as high of rates as when the unvaccinated catch covid.
However, there’s so much garbage information and manipulation of data right now that it’s incredibly difficult to know anything regarding this virus for certain.
However, there’s so much garbage information and manipulation of data right now that it’s incredibly difficult to know anything regarding this virus for certain.
Posted on 9/9/21 at 10:45 am to Jax-Tiger
I think common sense would dictate that if the vaccinated can carry and spread the virus, and are less likely to be symptomatic and therefore more likely to be out in public, then they would spread the virus more than the unvaccinated, who would be more likely to be symptomatic and stay away from others.
Posted on 9/9/21 at 10:45 am to Jax-Tiger
When you own the press and the "experts", you don't need proof.
Posted on 9/9/21 at 10:50 am to Jax-Tiger
When data is actively manipulated and censored, there can be no proof.
Posted on 9/9/21 at 10:55 am to Jax-Tiger
There is none. They started floating the lie that most of the hospitalized were unvaccinated and most of the dying were unvaccinated. Reality is that was not true. From region to region the numbers were not consistent on any of the measurement and many of the numbers were assumptions.
When 75 % of a region in MA came up positive after having been vaccinated they switched to vaccinated are not dying and their symptoms are less.
When vaccinated started getting really sick and some dying they moved to we need boosters.
Like everything from masks to hydroxy to death by covid numbers, the only consistent thing has been the consistent lying.
When 75 % of a region in MA came up positive after having been vaccinated they switched to vaccinated are not dying and their symptoms are less.
When vaccinated started getting really sick and some dying they moved to we need boosters.
Like everything from masks to hydroxy to death by covid numbers, the only consistent thing has been the consistent lying.
Posted on 9/9/21 at 10:55 am to Jax-Tiger
Why have hospitals become inundated with covid after giving vaccinations to most of the population? You would rationally think the opposite would transpire.
Posted on 9/9/21 at 10:57 am to themunch
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Why have hospitals become inundated with covid after giving vaccinations to most of the population? You would rationally think the opposite would transpire.
Israel says - hello!
Posted on 9/9/21 at 10:58 am to Jax-Tiger
There is no science to back up OP.
Vaccinated folks spread. Unvaccinated folks spread.
Treating them with different standards is astonishingly stupid.
Vaccinated folks spread. Unvaccinated folks spread.
Treating them with different standards is astonishingly stupid.
Posted on 9/9/21 at 11:02 am to fjlee90
You got it backwards baw, the vaccinated carry a higher viral load. Thats why Israel (highest vax rate in world) has the most covid cases.
LINK https://stateofthenation.co/?p=80296
vax may limit symptom severity once you catch the virus, but thats it. doesn't do anything else helpful, looks like vax is actually increasing the spread.
LINK https://stateofthenation.co/?p=80296
quote:
Study: Fully Vaccinated Healthcare Workers Carry 251 Times Viral Load,
Pose Threat to Unvaccinated Patients,
Co-Workers
A preprint paper by the prestigious Oxford University Clinical Research Group, published Aug. 10 in The Lancet, found vaccinated individuals carry 251 times the load of COVID-19 viruses in their nostrils compared to the unvaccinated.
vax may limit symptom severity once you catch the virus, but thats it. doesn't do anything else helpful, looks like vax is actually increasing the spread.
This post was edited on 9/9/21 at 11:04 am
Posted on 9/9/21 at 11:04 am to kingbob
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The studies I’ve seen actually show the opposite. The difference is that those who are vaccinated tend to get less sick and not require hospitalization at nearly as high of rates as when the unvaccinated catch covid.
I'll be the first to admit I don't search for every "study". But for the sake of discussion, if a person has the ability to contract and/or transmit the virus at the same level whether or not they are vaccinated, then isn't the benefit of being vaccinated SELF protection vs. protection for the others? And if so, why the need for MANDATORY vaccinations? If you want greater protection for yourself, then take the vaccine. If you don't care, then don't. Make your own risk assessment. But save the BS argument of "I'm getting vaccinated to protect YOU, not me." Because that doesn't make much sense if you can still infect others despite being vaccinated.
Posted on 9/9/21 at 11:05 am to Jax-Tiger
Any free thinker, vaccinated or not, should be very alarmed at how everything is being manipulated. At this point, how do you trust anything that is told to us.
You can get the virus whether you are vaccinated or not.
You can spread the virus whether you are vaccinated or not.
Studies show higher viral loads in vaccinated people and the theory is they will spread the virus at a higher rate than the unvaccinated.
Anyone that wants the vaccine can get it.
For those that are vaccinated and think, "vaccine mandates won't affect me", you are greatly mistaken.
A large segment of the population will just retreat and it will impact the economy. Industries are already starting to see it.
Your cost of goods will rise. Shortages will occur. Longer wait periods for goods and services.
Leave things as they are and let those that live in fear stay home and let the rest of society get going.
You can get the virus whether you are vaccinated or not.
You can spread the virus whether you are vaccinated or not.
Studies show higher viral loads in vaccinated people and the theory is they will spread the virus at a higher rate than the unvaccinated.
Anyone that wants the vaccine can get it.
For those that are vaccinated and think, "vaccine mandates won't affect me", you are greatly mistaken.
A large segment of the population will just retreat and it will impact the economy. Industries are already starting to see it.
Your cost of goods will rise. Shortages will occur. Longer wait periods for goods and services.
Leave things as they are and let those that live in fear stay home and let the rest of society get going.
Posted on 9/9/21 at 11:05 am to Bulldogblitz
It’s the exact opposite, idiot. According to the linked study below, it’s the vaccinated sheep that carry a higher viral load. 251 times that of an unvaccinated person.
LINK
LINK
Posted on 9/9/21 at 11:06 am to Bulldogblitz
You misunderstood the study that was on. It was a comparison between the original strain unvaccinated vs Delta in vaccinated people and the viral load.
Unvaccinated Delta viral loads are several times higher than vaccinated Delta infected.
Y'all would understand this is you would actually dig deeper instead of falling for clickbait.
Unvaccinated Delta viral loads are several times higher than vaccinated Delta infected.
Y'all would understand this is you would actually dig deeper instead of falling for clickbait.
Posted on 9/9/21 at 11:07 am to Alt26
100% with you
Posted on 9/9/21 at 11:09 am to Jax-Tiger
Just ask CNN and MSNBC, they'll tell you.
Posted on 9/9/21 at 11:13 am to deathvalleytiger10
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Any free thinker, vaccinated or not, should be very alarmed at how everything is being manipulated.
This is not a public heath driven situation imho.
Today we will find out how much life will be restricted for the unvaccinated by the usurper.
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