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re: When do we, and the West in general, start to accept the fact that Democracy failed?
Posted on 7/1/26 at 11:48 pm to Tom288
Posted on 7/1/26 at 11:48 pm to Tom288
I realized it a few years ago.. it is *a* reason I left America to live overseas.. it's not *the* reason, or even the main reason.. but imo the current US leadership is incompetent and is running America into the ground at an alarmingly high rate of speed .. once the results came in in 2015, I knew it was over .
Posted on 7/2/26 at 12:02 am to Tom288
So you think we should try fascism?
Posted on 7/2/26 at 3:54 am to Tom288
If the founders wanted a democracy they’d have said so.
Posted on 7/2/26 at 4:17 am to Tom288
Everyone loves to trash our form of government. It’s not perfect, but what system is? The US is the most successful form of government in World History. Capitalism as a system has done more to lift people out of poverty than any others,
Posted on 7/2/26 at 6:28 am to Tom288
What do you know about democracy.
Do you think we live in a democracy?
Do you think we live in a democracy?
Posted on 7/6/26 at 2:49 pm to Tom288
As pointed out by many in this thread, the U.S. is a Republic and not a Democracy.
What is interesting is to follow the evolution of pushing the line that the U.S. is a Democracy. If you say it enough people will believe it.
What is interesting is to follow the evolution of pushing the line that the U.S. is a Democracy. If you say it enough people will believe it.
Posted on 7/6/26 at 2:57 pm to Tom288
Our Republic is FAILING, it hasn't failed.
"A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only exist until the voters discover that they can vote themselves largesse from the public treasury." - Tytler
We are far beyond that.
In 2025, the Federal Government spent $7 TRILLION dollars
$4.2 Trillion (60%) were spent on Social Security ($1.6 T), Medicare ($988 B), Medicaid ($668 B), Income Security Programs ($397 B), and $539 B OTHER Mandated spending.
For all you morons who scream about "Endless Wars", our ENTIRE defense budget including weapons, salaries, bases, etc. is only $893 B (21%). We spend more on interest servicing our debt than we do defense ($970 B)
This is why our Republic/Democracy/Whatever you want to call it - is failing...because Americans used their votes to get free stuff.
"A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only exist until the voters discover that they can vote themselves largesse from the public treasury." - Tytler
We are far beyond that.
In 2025, the Federal Government spent $7 TRILLION dollars
$4.2 Trillion (60%) were spent on Social Security ($1.6 T), Medicare ($988 B), Medicaid ($668 B), Income Security Programs ($397 B), and $539 B OTHER Mandated spending.
For all you morons who scream about "Endless Wars", our ENTIRE defense budget including weapons, salaries, bases, etc. is only $893 B (21%). We spend more on interest servicing our debt than we do defense ($970 B)
This is why our Republic/Democracy/Whatever you want to call it - is failing...because Americans used their votes to get free stuff.
Posted on 7/6/26 at 3:22 pm to Tom288
Love when some fig starts a thread then defensively responds, line by line, to everyone who responds.
Posted on 7/6/26 at 3:33 pm to DesScorp
They loathed classical democracy because it's basically two wolves and a sheep voting on what's for supper. The electoral college is the difference hence blue states signing up for national popular vote winner taking their electoral votes
Posted on 7/6/26 at 4:27 pm to Tom288
I’m glad we live in a republic
Posted on 7/6/26 at 4:30 pm to ReauxlTide222
Right.
Some are just sad doom and gloom give uppers.
Some are just sad doom and gloom give uppers.
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