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re: When debating 47 with my liberal friends how do I cogently defend the apparent "chaos"

Posted on 3/14/25 at 8:45 am to
Posted by bodask42
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Posted on 3/14/25 at 8:45 am to
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DerangedCuckeye



Posted by theballguy
tMoral compass of poliboard
Member since Oct 2011
19266 posts
Posted on 3/14/25 at 8:48 am to
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how do I cogently defend the apparent "chaos" they all scream about of his first few months?


You'll have to make up some shite like all supporters do.
Posted by ChineseBandit58
Pearland, TX
Member since Aug 2005
46230 posts
Posted on 3/14/25 at 8:48 am to
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Trump Loyalists

Also known in the real world as 'observers of truth' and 'those who accomplish worthwhile things'

Perhaps you are Mal-informed = time to switch news feeds
Posted by Meauxjeaux
98836 posts including my alters
Member since Jun 2005
43623 posts
Posted on 3/14/25 at 8:49 am to
Don’t worry about it, just feel sorry for them that their brains are too slow to keep up with Trump!.
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
76732 posts
Posted on 3/14/25 at 8:50 am to
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'observers of truth' and 'those who accomplish worthwhile things'




Just wait. All will be revealed. Eventually...
Posted by FLTech
the A
Member since Sep 2017
21628 posts
Posted on 3/14/25 at 8:51 am to
Do me a favor and forward this video over to your friend.. it will shut his arse up with a quickness after he watches this video

Posted by BlackAdam
Member since Jan 2016
6877 posts
Posted on 3/14/25 at 8:52 am to
I think you start by pointing out that their premise is faulty. What exactly is chaotic? If they are going to make that assertion they need to cite examples. Moving fast and pivoting when the environment changes isn’t inherently chaotic.
Posted by SECROCKS!
Member since Jun 2013
538 posts
Posted on 3/14/25 at 8:52 am to
Tell them to get back with you when inflation gets to 14% and we will then beginning to break even with the chaos of the last administration. You could get slightly more complex and Talk about how they have gone from +10,000 boarder crossings to essentially 0, the lower egg prices, and reduced inflation. The descibe the savings and positive effects this will have on our economy, but this is probably to complex for a die hard leftist.
Posted by LSUFreek
Greater New Orleans
Member since Jan 2007
15587 posts
Posted on 3/14/25 at 8:53 am to
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he has no real plan and he's just making it up as he goes


He has no real plan? He's doing almost everything said or hinted at rallies/interviews/tweets for over a year! And there's still plenty more to follow through with.
Posted by The Torch
DFW The Dub
Member since Aug 2014
23792 posts
Posted on 3/14/25 at 8:53 am to
The only Chaos is trying to clean up the terrible mess Biden/Kamala left the country in.

Posted by ChineseBandit58
Pearland, TX
Member since Aug 2005
46230 posts
Posted on 3/14/25 at 8:56 am to
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Just wait. All will be revealed. Eventually...

we will - but we certainly cannot aspire to match the heights of achievements left out by "Bidenomics" :rotflmao:
Posted by prplngldtigr
just up da bayou from down
Member since Dec 2004
7450 posts
Posted on 3/14/25 at 8:57 am to
Chaos?

No.

Just because they don’t like it doesn’t make it chaos.
Leftist run on emotion, so I’m sure it “feels” a certain way to these twinkies, but it’s NOT chaos.
It’s rapid fire, strategic and necessary. It’s handling business.
Posted by AUTiger1978
Member since Jan 2018
1106 posts
Posted on 3/14/25 at 8:57 am to
They are falling for the shiny objects he dangles out there. There is clearly a plan but his tariff negotiations and purposeful distraction keep those idiots busy chasing their tails.
Posted by BrookhavenBengal
Brookhaven, MS
Member since Oct 2007
3515 posts
Posted on 3/14/25 at 8:58 am to
There is no chaos. That’s entirely a figment of their delusions.
Posted by StringedInstruments
Member since Oct 2013
19844 posts
Posted on 3/14/25 at 9:00 am to
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chaos


Maybe I'm just hitting the prime of middle age, but in all my years, I have heard "worst president ever" from both sides since I was a kid.

I can remember my dad ranting about Clinton. My college roommate ranting about Bush. My coworkers ranting about Obama. Rants against Trump. Rants against Biden. Now rants against Trump again.

It's always hyperbole.

Some presidents are good. Some are bad. The world moves on.

They are making decisions based on what they believe is right. If you disagree, you're going to feel strongly about it. So it becomes "the end of the world! Seriously this time! This isn't like other times!"

Just ignore it. Don't engage or converse. At best say, "I heard the same things back in 2017." And leave it at that.
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
76732 posts
Posted on 3/14/25 at 9:00 am to
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we will


Someday...
Posted by ChineseBandit58
Pearland, TX
Member since Aug 2005
46230 posts
Posted on 3/14/25 at 9:01 am to
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Moving fast and pivoting when the environment changes isn’t inherently chaotic.

/\ /\
It is exploiting the utter confusion and ineptness of the 'opposition' = such as it is. Right now they are no more effective than blocking dummies.

I've never seen an organization is such disarray

They act like a bunch of people stranded on a desert island after they had devoted their lives and fortunes to taking a 'pleasure cruise.' Total frustration and lack of sensible response.
Posted by Blizzard of Chizz
Member since Apr 2012
19979 posts
Posted on 3/14/25 at 9:02 am to
I would say complacency especially with our tax dollars will always lead to chaos. Consider this scenario. You wake up this morning to discover you wife has spent ever dollar you own. She’s cashed out your savings and retirement and blown that too. How would you describe the energy in your house at that moment? What we are dealing with is an infinitely scaled of version of that. Not only has your wife blown through your money, she’s used it to enrich friends family, coworkers, but you’re the maniac who dared to question where the money went.

I say all that to say, chaos isn’t a bad thing when it exposes the parasites robbing you blind.
Posted by DaBike
Member since Jan 2008
10158 posts
Posted on 3/14/25 at 9:03 am to
The only chaos I see is what the left is creating.
Posted by umrebel2009
Member since Feb 2010
7778 posts
Posted on 3/14/25 at 9:04 am to
He's working to cut waste in the government and restore the economy.

They're making cuts in the government, and renegotiating our trade with other countries to get us more favorable terms
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