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re: What's the argument against raising the corporate tax rate?

Posted on 9/3/25 at 1:12 pm to
Posted by troyt37
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Posted on 9/3/25 at 1:12 pm to
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Wrong


I guess you could go off grid…
Posted by Ingeniero
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 9/3/25 at 1:22 pm to
Just consume less. 3 toys this year instead of 20
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
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Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 9/3/25 at 1:32 pm to
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Besides the fact that corporations will just raise prices to compensate and everything will cost even more than it does now?




We've been told for 9 months now that this simply doesn't occur.
Posted by ThuperThumpin
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 9/3/25 at 1:37 pm to
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You are much more likely to find one with the tariffs than without.


If the tarrifs stay in place...maybe in a decade if we can produce a product worth a shite. The best US tv designer is VIZIO which launched in 2002.. they still arent that great and they still manufacture over seas.
Posted by ThuperThumpin
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 9/3/25 at 1:39 pm to
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We've been told for 9 months now that this simply doesn't occur.


That corporation will raise prices? They certainly have in my industry...bc of tariffs
This post was edited on 9/3/25 at 1:41 pm
Posted by alphaandomega
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Member since Aug 2012
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Posted on 9/3/25 at 2:01 pm to
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What's the argument against raising the corporate tax rate?


Whats the argument against ending welfare and cutting income taxes in half?

Posted by troyt37
Member since Mar 2008
14684 posts
Posted on 9/3/25 at 2:08 pm to
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Just consume less. 3 toys this year instead of 20


Raising corporate taxes means you could buy 10 toys for the price of those 3. Try to imagine how many corporations are involved in getting one toy under your tree. From the one who supplies the plastic to the one who uses it to make the toy, to the one who supplies the trucks to transport it to the one who markets it to the one who retails it to the one who delivers it. Every single corporation, whether directly or indirectly involved will increase their costs.
Posted by Rebel
Graceland
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Posted on 9/3/25 at 2:20 pm to
Corporations can’t pay taxes.
Posted by Westbank111
Armpit of America
Member since Sep 2013
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Posted on 9/3/25 at 2:41 pm to
OP’s extremely LOW IQ!

Anytime you go up on a corporations taxes and reduce their bottom line (ie. Taxes), of which myself being a small business owner, I get taxed enough!

And when increases happen, I either have to increase the rates of our services or charge a “surcharge”, either way, the Corps are not just gonna sit idly by and lessen their profits, it gets passed on to the consumer and the only winner is the Fed Gov collection’s so they can waste it on Tranny parades abroad!

And regarding debt, who do we owe?

An UNCONSTITUTIONALLY & ILLEGALLY formed banking system called the Federal Reserve in 1913.

Signed while congress off on Christmas break and that POS Woodrow Wilson sold us all down the river.

For every $1 liquid dollar in deposits at FDIC banks, they are allowed to lend out $10 with FIAT INVISIBLE MONEY via an ILLEGAL CONTRACT that charges high interest yields on money they don’t even have in deposits!

Then the FED GOV purposely creates “BUBBLES ie 2008 Housing Crash” by MANDATING FDIC banks to lend money to 400-500 credit scores knowing they will default.

THUS, “TOO BIG TO FAIL” and $$Trillions in bailout money to the BIG BANKS that run the FED, and they get Golden Parachutes on both ends and screw us and drive us into debt.

So for all you MENTAL MIDGETS, the Fed NEEDS TO BE ABOLISHED, screw paying it down!

Tell them to come and get it!
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
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Member since Oct 2012
41099 posts
Posted on 9/3/25 at 2:44 pm to
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Anytime you go up on a corporations taxes and reduce their bottom line (ie. Taxes), of which myself being a small business owner, I get taxed enough!

And when increases happen, I either have to increase the rates of our services or charge a “surcharge”, either way, the Corps are not just gonna sit idly by and lessen their profits, it gets passed on to the consumer and the only winner is the Fed Gov collection’s so they can waste it on Tranny parades abroad!


You don't say?
Posted by wackatimesthree
Member since Oct 2019
13529 posts
Posted on 9/3/25 at 2:44 pm to
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Corporate taxes are paid by consumers.


Damn right.

Good thing tariffs aren't.
Posted by wackatimesthree
Member since Oct 2019
13529 posts
Posted on 9/3/25 at 2:45 pm to
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And when increases happen, I either have to increase the rates of our services or charge a “surcharge”, either way, the Corps are not just gonna sit idly by and lessen their profits, it gets passed on to the consumer and the only winner is the Fed Gov collection’s so they can waste it on Tranny parades abroad!


It's such a good thing that none of that is true for tariffs.
Posted by wackatimesthree
Member since Oct 2019
13529 posts
Posted on 9/3/25 at 2:46 pm to
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Whats the argument against ending welfare and cutting income taxes in half?


Math.
Posted by wackatimesthree
Member since Oct 2019
13529 posts
Posted on 9/3/25 at 2:47 pm to
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You don't understand that the tax burden is borne by the consumer, the employees, or both? As a CEO, what would you do when the government increases taxes? You going to quit the country club, trade your Mercedes for a Ford, and start carrying your lunch? Or are you going to raise the price of your product, pay your employees less, reduce their benefits, have fewer employees, or a combination of all of these?


Nah, you just use tariff math.

The money just magically appears.
Posted by wackatimesthree
Member since Oct 2019
13529 posts
Posted on 9/3/25 at 2:50 pm to
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With tariffs, consumers can choose to pay it or not.


Nope.

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They can usually source from a domestic manufacturer and not pay the tariff.


But instead they pay the higher price of the domestic manufacturer. Gee. What a big difference.

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But if you raise corporate taxes the consumer has no choice.


Actually, businesses are much less likely to raise prices in response to a rise in corporate taxes than they would be tariffs. Taxes are only applied after profits have been made. Tariffs are levied regardless of profits. Tariffs could actually cause a company to lose money depending upon their profit margin. Taxes never could do that.
Posted by Ingeniero
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2013
23031 posts
Posted on 9/3/25 at 2:58 pm to
This thread has gone much better than I expected
Posted by mauser
Orange Beach
Member since Nov 2008
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Posted on 9/3/25 at 3:19 pm to
I would add increased corporate taxing on American manufactured products hurts the American corporation's ability to compete with a foreign manufacturer in a third country's market.

For example a product made here may have to compete with China for a product sold in Brazil .
Posted by BHS78
Member since May 2017
3855 posts
Posted on 9/3/25 at 3:53 pm to
Do you realize that will just pass it on down. Maybe you don't because that's one thing a Dem never tells the public when they scream "Fair share"
Posted by Antonio Moss
The South
Member since Mar 2006
49413 posts
Posted on 9/3/25 at 4:02 pm to
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What's the argument against raising the corporate tax rate?


(1) The government needs less money, not more.

(2) Corporate revenue is much better served via reinvestment or in the pockets of their employees.
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
55580 posts
Posted on 9/3/25 at 4:24 pm to
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What's the argument against raising the corporate tax rate?

Companies pay income taxes, then distribute earnings, then the stockholders have to pay income taxes again. It’s a fairness issue.

If you raise corporate taxes I’d guess that fewer companies would headquarter here, and fewer of the ones that do would incorporate, which would slow down the access to capital. All around bad scene.
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