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re: What's the argument against raising the corporate tax rate?

Posted on 9/3/25 at 4:37 pm to
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
55580 posts
Posted on 9/3/25 at 4:37 pm to
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Corporations don't pay taxes. Neve have paid one penny of tax and never will. Unlike you and me, they are blessed with someone to pay their taxes for them: (1) their customers who pay those taxes in the form of higher prices, and (2) their employees who are forced to accept lower wages and reduced benefits.

This is wrong. Why not the reverse? Employees don’t pay income taxes; they just charge higher wages to their employer. Both of these are wrong for the same reason: no one can dictate the price of a product, service or labor.

Corporations that do pay taxes compete with partnerships that don’t. If a corporation and a competing partnership are both clearing $1,000,000 in income the corporation pays maybe $200,000 in income taxes, and if it distributes the $800,000 to shareholders who average a 30% marginal tax rate, then those shareholders pay $240,000 in income taxes. So $440,000 is taxed away by the feds.

The partnership makes the same $1,000,000 distributes it (or not) and if its shareholders pay the same 30% then only $300,000 is taxed away. Now the corporation has an advantage in that if it does not distribute the $800,000 after-tax earnings then it can keep using that $800,000, while the partnership would only have $700,000 to use.

That’s the situation now. If you raise corporate taxes the partnership advantages will far outweigh the corporate advantages for a lot of companies, and there would be a flood of reorganizations. These would cause a lot of disadvantage to deal making and business investment.
This post was edited on 9/3/25 at 4:39 pm
Posted by greygoose
Member since Aug 2013
15060 posts
Posted on 9/3/25 at 4:39 pm to
Same reason that an increase in property tax results in an increase on the rent. Idiots that live in apartments will say thing like this when a property tax increase is propose, "I don't care, I don't own property." Then they get that nice surprise of a rent increase.
Posted by dalefla
Central FL
Member since Jul 2024
4134 posts
Posted on 9/3/25 at 5:35 pm to
Corporations don't pay taxes. They simply add the cost to their products and consumers pay it.
Posted by Deplorableinohio
Member since Dec 2018
7928 posts
Posted on 9/3/25 at 8:05 pm to
Theoretically. But tariffs to drive reduced foreign tariffs on US exports to increase our exports is good for our economy and more importantly our American workers.
Posted by SoFla Tideroller
South Florida
Member since Apr 2010
41027 posts
Posted on 9/3/25 at 8:32 pm to
Corporate taxes are double taxation.
Posted by FoTownBam
Foley Al
Member since Oct 2023
4588 posts
Posted on 9/3/25 at 8:54 pm to
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We're just leaving money on the table

Who’s we? I’m not going to see any of that money. In fact raising corporate tax rates will more than likely cost me more money. Raise taxes on companies and they raise prices. You must be a damn Democrat, but I’m glad you asked this question. Good opportunity to learn
Posted by billjamin
Houston
Member since Jun 2019
18077 posts
Posted on 9/3/25 at 9:00 pm to
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Corporations don't pay taxes. They simply add the cost to their products and consumers pay it.

I would phrase it differently although I agree with your general sentiment. All taxes are paid by someone, be it the end user or investors. It has to come to from somewhere and the differentiation between consumer and investors paying it is very relevant these days.
This post was edited on 9/3/25 at 9:00 pm
Posted by ShermanTxTiger
Broussard, La
Member since Oct 2007
11382 posts
Posted on 9/3/25 at 9:26 pm to
Taxes have economics consequences. They dont exist in a vacuum.

If you think taxing a corporation has no impact, we should raise corporate taxes to 90%. It would be a hell of a government revenue haul.
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