re: Whatever happened to the libertarians on this board?

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Now it is filled with people being against sex outside of marriage, affairs, reading the "wrong" texts, not living a Christian life which is supposedly our foundation, etc.

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I don’t know who you’re talking about

Democrats are the moral police, you own that

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Many lukewarm libertarians like me

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you were a fricking borderline progressive before Trump

Net neutrality is a good example, I have seen few Libetarians posting about that.

I have seen almost no libertarians posting about us recognizing a new capital for Isreal.

I have seen no libertarians posting about the Supreme Court decision about immigration, a traditional libertarian view is that there should be no immigration laws at all (or even borders). Where are those folks now, they were here before?

I have seen no libertarians comment about Trump increasing law enforcement for marijuana.

Two years ago this board was like the board for reason.com. now it's breitbart. What happened to those people, why not engage about net neutraility for example?

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It gets tiresome after awhile from being called a cuck or Obamabot by Trumpcans after awhile. Most probably just moved on from this echo chamber

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Then they are weaklings not willing to fight for their beliefs but easily giving up when it gets "tireseome after a while". They had no problem posting here when this was a libertarian echo-chamber three years ago, why?

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I have seen almost no libertarians posting about us recognizing a new capital for Isreal.

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Its always been the Capital of Israel. It’s an objective fact that everyone knows. He’s just facing reality. While Trump is at it, I would like for him to also acknowledge Taiwan. China isn’t going to do shite.

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I have seen no libertarians posting about the Supreme Court decision about immigration, a traditional libertarian view is that there should be no immigration laws at all (or even borders). Where are those folks now, they were here before?

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That is not a libertarian view at all. Libertarians are more advocates for Capitalism, Isolationism, and American Ideals. That is the exact fricking opposite of bringing in worthless refugees who don’t believe in the First Amendment.

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I have seen no libertarians comment about Trump increasing law enforcement for marijuana.

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Go click on any random thread about Jeff Sessions to see what we think about that.

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What happened to those people, why not engage about net neutraility for example?

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Those debates have gotten pretty hostile if you would just look it up.

Want to keep going?

I have been in all of those threads

There is no libertarian answer to net neutrality. This is one of those rare instances where government regulation is necessary, at least at present. The only people advocating for ending NN right now are idiot trumpkins who only support it because Trump does and people who work for ISP’s. NN is ansafeguard for the free exchange of ideas and free commerce on the internet, both critical causes for libertarianism.

Where we put our embassy doesn’t really matter. If their capital is Jerusalem, it makes sense for our embassy to be there. It’s just not that important. What matters far more is the amount we pay in foreign aid and paying troops to fight unnecessary wars for and against people who hate us and want us gone.

There has been a ton of criticism of Sessions especially on marijuana and civil asset forfieture. Only a small handful of posters on this site oppose, at minimum, rescheduling marijuana, and most favor completely legalizing it.

Immigration is as much a “rule of law” issue as it is a policy issue. Libertarians believe in the rule of law even when they don’t like it. With immigration, libertarians believe in open borders, predicated that there is also no welfare state at the federal level. You can have either open borders or a welfare state, but not both. Libertarians would prefer open borders and no welfare state, but when faced with the choice of welfare and open borders or welfare and closed borders, we’ll take the latter since that is the more financially sustainable model and promotes the rule of law.

I was one of the more vocal libertarians on this board back in 2011-2013. I just got tired of it all. Became more apathetic. I still lurk, just have very little energy to argue as much these days.

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Net neutrality is a good example, I have seen few Libetarians posting about that.

I have seen almost no libertarians posting about us recognizing a new capital for Isreal.

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NN is a hot debate even among libertarians. It's not as simple as people pretend that it is,given the highly regulated nature of IspS. I fall on the side of repeal but I also want to see broader repeals of local, state, and national regs on the internet services.

The question of moving the embassy isn't really a libertarian issue. I personally see it as another example of sucking Israeli dick. Instead of telling Izzy to fix their domestic shite show so the country team can live and operate somewhat safely in Jerusalem, we carry their water for them. Again.

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Then they are weaklings not willing to fight for their beliefs

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Wtf? Where have you been hiding?

Some of the perfect ple who sorta liked Ron Paul went to the Trump camp but for most the issues have never changed.

I've had plenty of battles with both sides and your damned if you do and damned if you don't.

You’re about as libertarian as Bernie