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re: What the hell? Trump to propose govt funded Ivf for all women
Posted on 8/29/24 at 5:20 pm to Goldentaint777
Posted on 8/29/24 at 5:20 pm to Goldentaint777
Who is master?
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Posted on 8/29/24 at 5:21 pm to Goldentaint777
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The truth is that Trump people are no different than leftists they want to censor any criticism of their false god
And you fit in nicely with the leftists spewing all of your antisemitism. How many pro-Palestine rallies have you attended?
Posted on 8/29/24 at 5:22 pm to Goldentaint777
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I’m more right wing than you trump or anyone you know dumbass.
Ok?
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If you’re still voting or think it matters you’re just controlled opposition
Oh, ok.
Posted on 8/29/24 at 5:24 pm to NC_Tigah
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We’re going to be making a major statement today that IVF treatments — you know I’m in favor of it — that IVF treatments will be covered by the government under a Trump administration,” former President Donald Trump told me exclusively at Alro Steel in Potterville.
What did he mean if he didn't mean what he said?
Posted on 8/29/24 at 5:25 pm to roadGator
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But you don't have the sack to explain what it means to you.
He clearly doesn't have the sack to explain much of anything. Or the intelligence.
Posted on 8/29/24 at 5:32 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
This is a great policy, god bless that man
The Democrats are doing everything in their power to suppress our birthrates, and at the same time, they're importing millions of foreigners to replace us. It's one thing, but it helps.
The Democrats are doing everything in their power to suppress our birthrates, and at the same time, they're importing millions of foreigners to replace us. It's one thing, but it helps.
Posted on 8/29/24 at 5:39 pm to frogtown
Not with my insurance. I’m locked in
Posted on 8/29/24 at 5:45 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
My niece had her only child through IVF, and it cost $55k over 15 years ago. Will she be getting a taxpayer paid refund?
Posted on 8/29/24 at 5:45 pm to BigJim
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Politically, I kinda get it.
I understand it from a getting elected perspective considering Harris’ attack on Trump over IVF but this is a horrible policy proposal. Government should not mandate anything.
Posted on 8/29/24 at 5:47 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
I honestly don’t have a problem with ivf. Lots of middle class families use it that actually want to raise children.
Posted on 8/29/24 at 5:49 pm to MFn GIMP
Make it a tax deduction and I could be persuaded to see the data on cost.
I hate the idea of straight up payments for anything. But we need future taxpayers. Preferably from working American families.
I hate the idea of straight up payments for anything. But we need future taxpayers. Preferably from working American families.
Posted on 8/29/24 at 5:52 pm to dgnx6
IVF needs to be affordable because the people using it are middle to upper class families who delayed having kids until after they got their lives settled or got married later in life.
In general you need two incomes per household and it’s more expensive than ever for daycare and to find a starter house, people are delaying kids and the older you are the more complications that happen. It’s a shame that IVF isn’t covered by insurance more.
It also takes away the ridiculous attack angle from Dems that he or Republicans want to ban IVF.
I’m sure the cost of successful IVF baby and total lifetime tax revenue per baby could show this actually makes even more economic sense.
In general you need two incomes per household and it’s more expensive than ever for daycare and to find a starter house, people are delaying kids and the older you are the more complications that happen. It’s a shame that IVF isn’t covered by insurance more.
It also takes away the ridiculous attack angle from Dems that he or Republicans want to ban IVF.
I’m sure the cost of successful IVF baby and total lifetime tax revenue per baby could show this actually makes even more economic sense.
This post was edited on 8/29/24 at 5:55 pm
Posted on 8/29/24 at 5:53 pm to GRTiger
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I am in favor of more productivity based incentives for having kids, which this is not.
I am in favor of Trump using this as a bargaining chip to dangle in front of the Dems in Congress to get something else accomplished, like say deporting illegals and ending any sort of welfare paid/given to them.
"We need to make sure our beautiful women in this country - the most beautiful women - can have all the children they want, but in order to do that we need to remove the excess strain on the system. That's why I propse a bill that would fund IVF treatments for American women, but only after we remove those illegals that would take advantage of American tax dollars they haven't paid into"
In short, I would 100% support Trump using this to bargain a deal that would accomplish something we all want as conservatives, but maybe the Dems are sheepish on. It would give the Dems an out to support something like a mass deportation, if they could tell their supporters that they did it for IVF treatments
Posted on 8/29/24 at 5:54 pm to Adam Banks
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They are willing to vote for the same platform as harris as long as it comes with some mean tweet
Except you are voting harris.
Posted on 8/29/24 at 6:01 pm to roadGator
quote:Show me in Trump's statement where he said GOVERNMENT would fund Ivf for ALL women.
Trump to propose govt funded Ivf for all women
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What did he mean if he didn't mean what he said?
PLEASE TAKE YOUR TIME.
Actually read WTF Trump said.
Then address the question.
This post was edited on 8/29/24 at 6:03 pm
Posted on 8/29/24 at 6:02 pm to Y.A. Tittle
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That would be a terrible policy.
It would be massively expensive and we'd need a LOT more fertility specialists and will create many many embryos that will never be born (so the fetal personhood people won't like it). but if Trump impulsively thinks it helps him win an election and stay out of jail, baws are on board.
Posted on 8/29/24 at 6:03 pm to Goldentaint777
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I’m more right wing than you trump or anyone you know dumbass.
Anyone with brain knows Trump is closer to a Bill Clinton than far right extremist.
Posted on 8/29/24 at 6:04 pm to TigerDoc
quote:Why does it not surprise me you've pounced on a false Trump narrative
It would be massively expensive
Posted on 8/29/24 at 6:05 pm to dgnx6
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Except you are voting harris.
NPC
Posted on 8/29/24 at 6:06 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
America is no longer intelligent, educated, or mature enough for small government and reduced spending messaging.
You win elections these days by promising the unwashed masses all the shite you are going to give them.
If we're going to spend a bunch of money I'd rather it be on legitimate stuff for actual Americans rather than a bunch of bullshite on illegal immigrants and foreign countries.
You win elections these days by promising the unwashed masses all the shite you are going to give them.
If we're going to spend a bunch of money I'd rather it be on legitimate stuff for actual Americans rather than a bunch of bullshite on illegal immigrants and foreign countries.
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