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re: What the hell? Trump to propose govt funded Ivf for all women

Posted on 8/29/24 at 6:08 pm to
Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
89810 posts
Posted on 8/29/24 at 6:08 pm to
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NPC


Lol how many boosters did you get?
Posted by Adam Banks
District 5
Member since Sep 2009
37806 posts
Posted on 8/29/24 at 6:09 pm to
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IVF needs to be affordable because the people using it are middle to upper class families who delayed having kids until after they got their lives settled or got married later in life.



That’s an interesting statement comrade. What other luxuries that involve incredibly complex work on the part of others are you entitled to?
Posted by Tarps99
Lafourche Parish
Member since Apr 2017
12713 posts
Posted on 8/29/24 at 6:09 pm to
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Give in on every issue so we can “win”



Sums up MAGA fairly well


Art of the Deal...
Posted by Adam Banks
District 5
Member since Sep 2009
37806 posts
Posted on 8/29/24 at 6:11 pm to
0.0.


Keep with those programmed responses. Really displaying your intelligence and free thinking ability
Posted by Zahrim
McCamey Texas
Member since Mar 2009
8155 posts
Posted on 8/29/24 at 6:12 pm to
why not, gvt pays men to have the blue pill jist to get it up....
Posted by JoeHackett
Member since Aug 2016
5171 posts
Posted on 8/29/24 at 6:12 pm to
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Show me in Trump's statement where he said GOVERNMENT would fund Ivf for ALL women.



LINK

quote:

Trump: We are going to be, under the Trump administration, we are going to be paying for that treatment.

Q: All Americans that want it?

Trump: All Americans that get it, all Americans that need it. So we're going to be paying for that treatment or we're going to be mandating that the insurance company pay.
Posted by AZHorn
Southern Arizona
Member since Aug 2021
1062 posts
Posted on 8/29/24 at 6:15 pm to
I think this is bait to see if Kamala tries to steal another one of his ideals and try to make this one of her policies....More ammo for him in the debate.

Also, this is pretty clever, when an interviewer brings up the abortion subject, he can say this as a positive, that he wants to help women and not kill babies, but make families...Can kind of change the subject of the conversation about Roe vs Wade into a more positive direction and put the interviewer on defense...
This post was edited on 8/29/24 at 6:24 pm
Posted by joshua2571
Member since Nov 2015
8293 posts
Posted on 8/29/24 at 6:19 pm to
My brother and his spent 15k for IVF. 2 years later, he could got it for free?
This post was edited on 8/29/24 at 6:20 pm
Posted by Wednesday
Member since Aug 2017
17300 posts
Posted on 8/29/24 at 6:25 pm to
I’m sort of ok with this. So long as: the mother is married, to the man who will be the father, and it contains a specific ban for surrogacy

Otherwise this will provide government funding to gay dudes buying babies.

I’d rather the government pay for IVF than trans surgeries.
Posted by Eighteen
Member since Dec 2006
37406 posts
Posted on 8/29/24 at 6:36 pm to
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That’s an interesting statement comrade. What other luxuries that involve incredibly complex work on the part of others are you entitled to?




The other option is people just don’t have kids because they can’t afford them and are working too much. Is that a good society?

We as a country have created this mess of unaffordability during women’s peak child bearing years. How can we go about fixing it?
Posted by Eighteen
Member since Dec 2006
37406 posts
Posted on 8/29/24 at 6:38 pm to
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My brother and his spent 15k for IVF. 2 years later, he could got it for free?


I know people who spent $30k and the eggs didn’t take so they ended up with nothing. It’s incredibly sad but also frustrating that none of it is covered by two working parents insurance. The drugs themselves cost $10k or more and none of it covered.
Posted by L1C4
The Ville
Member since Aug 2017
16568 posts
Posted on 8/29/24 at 6:42 pm to
Is there anything that Trump will do that you will criticize?

If Kamala proposed this you would be bitching like hell.
Posted by I20goon
about 7mi down a dirt road
Member since Aug 2013
19829 posts
Posted on 8/29/24 at 6:42 pm to
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What the hell? Trump to propose govt funded Ivf for all women
A) WTF is this "woman" you speak of?
B) Harris will propose gov't funded IVF for men in her CNN interview now.
C) We do have a demographic problem (and family/morals to boot). As long as they don't then get gov't abortions right after, fine.
Posted by AuburnTigers
9x National Champion
Member since Aug 2013
17432 posts
Posted on 8/29/24 at 6:42 pm to
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I’m frustrated that Trump has continued to shove the party WAY left yet you keep spouting that I’m voting for Harris.
Trump isnt pulling the party Left. The Dems are pushing away the Center left to the Republican party. Huge fricking difference.

Hell, Donald was a Democrat and yet you act surprised he isnt fiscally conservative? Cmon man.

Posted by The Boat
Member since Oct 2008
177331 posts
Posted on 8/29/24 at 6:42 pm to
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My brother and his spent 15k for IVF. 2 years later, he could got it for free?

Only if you trade in the first kid
Posted by ABearsFanNMS
Formerly of tLandmass now in Texas
Member since Oct 2014
20205 posts
Posted on 8/29/24 at 6:43 pm to
If the government is forced to fund Planned Parenthood or Tranny surgery then why not this?
This post was edited on 8/29/24 at 6:44 pm
Posted by Adam Banks
District 5
Member since Sep 2009
37806 posts
Posted on 8/29/24 at 6:44 pm to
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The other option is people just don’t have kids because they can’t afford them and are working too much.



Did we outlaw adoption?
Posted by I20goon
about 7mi down a dirt road
Member since Aug 2013
19829 posts
Posted on 8/29/24 at 6:45 pm to
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My brother and his spent 15k for IVF. 2 years later, he could got it for free?
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Only if you trade in the first kid
beware, the depreciation on that is about the same as a Camry.
Posted by themunch
bottom of the list
Member since Jan 2007
71965 posts
Posted on 8/29/24 at 6:45 pm to
I thought early on Trump was catching grief about not supporting this. He is showing his support. It is a proposal right?
Posted by MFn GIMP
Member since Feb 2011
23008 posts
Posted on 8/29/24 at 6:46 pm to
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Make it a tax deduction and I could be persuaded to see the data on cost.

I would be ok with a non-refundable tax credit or a tax deduction.
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