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re: What responsibility do hospitalized, unvaxed people bear when they deny others healthcare?

Posted on 9/14/21 at 9:57 am to
Posted by Turbeauxdog
Member since Aug 2004
24273 posts
Posted on 9/14/21 at 9:57 am to
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Naw. There’s no cost to a five year old thinking that they might die because their mask slipped. It’s all $0.


This thread is 100 percent fail factory, but his statement about masks might be number 1
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 9/14/21 at 9:58 am to
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think he's just making a normative judgement about personal behavior in a community.


By “normative” you mean “moral”?
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
63087 posts
Posted on 9/14/21 at 9:58 am to
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No. There is no evidence masks do "nothing".


Up is down left is right. Now without evidence that masks do nothing, they can be mandated. FYI, there is evidence that masks do nothing.
Posted by Snipe
Member since Nov 2015
16722 posts
Posted on 9/14/21 at 9:59 am to
If non vaccinated people should be turned away from medical treatment then there is no logical reason why fat people, people who smoke, people who drink, and people with no insurance shouldn't be turned away as well.

You do not have to extrapolate that out very far to realize that is a vary dangerous, poorly thought out solution to a likely non-existent problem.

Hello and welcome back "pre-existing condition" denials.....
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
115467 posts
Posted on 9/14/21 at 9:59 am to
Posted by hashtag
Comfy, AF
Member since Aug 2005
33726 posts
Posted on 9/14/21 at 9:59 am to
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There is no evidence masks do "nothing"
there is no evidence you don't rape little boys either.
Posted by TigerDoc
Texas
Member since Apr 2004
11854 posts
Posted on 9/14/21 at 9:59 am to
sure, more or less. What individuals should choose to do.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
128843 posts
Posted on 9/14/21 at 10:00 am to
So morality is objective?
Posted by blueboxer1119
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2013
9785 posts
Posted on 9/14/21 at 10:01 am to
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What responsibility do hospitalized, unvaxed people bear when they deny others healthcare?


I pay more for healh insurance and everything health related so 50% of America can eat a King size double whopper with coke 3 times a day and be morbidly ovese.

Let me know if you find a solution for us unvaccinated so we can apply that to the over 50% of obese Americans first.
Posted by Ripley
Member since Aug 2016
4589 posts
Posted on 9/14/21 at 10:03 am to

It’s the responsibility of businesses to adapt to the customer.

If they can’t adapt, the market will decide how much business (if any) they deserve.

Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 9/14/21 at 10:04 am to
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This thread is 100 percent fail factory


Progressives run on emotion over rationality

The OP is hyper emotional.
Posted by GRTiger
On a roof eating alligator pie
Member since Dec 2008
71214 posts
Posted on 9/14/21 at 10:04 am to
If that's the entire point, then I guess SFP can accept acknowledgement of his virtues that have been sufficiently signaled.

It seemed likely that was the case given the lack of credibility of his various citations.

It would appear SFP's momentum down the road to marginalizing a large group of people through emotional and inaccurate stories is too much to stop at this point. I'd be interested to see his honest list of things the unvaxxed should be prohibited from. Employment? Education? Healthcare? Social services? Voting? Access to federal resources? General participation in society?

Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 9/14/21 at 10:05 am to
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I think you have a fundamental misunderstanding of personal responsibility.


= HIS morality.

Typical prog.
Posted by TigerDoc
Texas
Member since Apr 2004
11854 posts
Posted on 9/14/21 at 10:06 am to
that's a whole branch of philosophy there, and we should let him speak for himself here, but I haven't heard anyone really rebut his main point which is that it's basically good for individuals to choose low-risk health choices to help avoid large public health problems where individual failure to do so predictably results in major problems for others.

This post was edited on 9/14/21 at 10:07 am
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 9/14/21 at 10:07 am to
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I think he's just making a normative judgement about personal behavior in a community.


it literally goes against everything he's pretended to claim over the past 10 years.


No, he's trying to shame people who don't get vaccinated because he thinks they are cave dwellers. Hes overly emotional today.
Posted by Ripley
Member since Aug 2016
4589 posts
Posted on 9/14/21 at 10:07 am to
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The OP is hyper emotional.

The OP makes it a habit of thinking that just by disagreeing or taking the contrarian view on everything, it makes him seem smart.

He’s a moron.
Posted by GRTiger
On a roof eating alligator pie
Member since Dec 2008
71214 posts
Posted on 9/14/21 at 10:08 am to
A healthy 18-39 year old carrying on with his life without the covid vaccine has been proven beyond a shadow of a doubt to be a low-risk health choice. From there, there are simply only anecdotes should you still feel the need to combat that truth.
Posted by fisherscatfan
Indianapolis
Member since Sep 2020
743 posts
Posted on 9/14/21 at 10:09 am to
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SlowFlowPro

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I'm discussing personal responsibility


That is just rich.

Please apply to obesity, drug overdoses, smoking, abortion, Antifa’s actions, illegal immigrants, challenging police cause someone felt disrespected, failing to get educated, etc. Why apply personal responsibility to only select things that bother you?. fricking hypocrite.
This post was edited on 9/14/21 at 10:11 am
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
477219 posts
Posted on 9/14/21 at 10:09 am to
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I'd be interested to see his honest list of things the unvaxxed should be prohibited from.

Nothing?

I never discussed mandates or regulations on the unvaxxed. That's an emotional-irrational straw man posted on repeat in this thread.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 9/14/21 at 10:10 am to
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it's basically good for individuals to choose low-risk health choices to help avoid large public health problems where individual failure to do so predictably results in major problems for others.


For the good of society.

The OP disagrees with your take on his thread. He has already claimed that is right wing misinformation.
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