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What does this massacre mean for Vance and perhaps even Rubio?
Posted on 11/4/26 at 8:32 am
Posted on 11/4/26 at 8:32 am
I think we all thought one of them was a lock for the nomination.
But last night cannot be seen as anything but an extremely sharp rebuke of the current administration. Some will want to spit into the wind against that notion, but they are lying to themselves. Both of them are, of course, 2 of the highest ranking members of this administration that the public just flogged.
Two years is a long time, but anyone with a brain that wants to win in 2 years has to at least start to think outside of the administration, someone that is not directly associated with Trump. I don't know who that could be (and no, I do not think it is Ron Desantis).
But last night cannot be seen as anything but an extremely sharp rebuke of the current administration. Some will want to spit into the wind against that notion, but they are lying to themselves. Both of them are, of course, 2 of the highest ranking members of this administration that the public just flogged.
Two years is a long time, but anyone with a brain that wants to win in 2 years has to at least start to think outside of the administration, someone that is not directly associated with Trump. I don't know who that could be (and no, I do not think it is Ron Desantis).
Posted on 11/4/26 at 8:33 am to Fun Bunch
Vance is toast. I think Rubio is talented and can get $ behind him to pose a threat.
Posted on 11/4/26 at 8:33 am to Fun Bunch
Vance will turn on Trump and expose himself.
Posted on 11/4/26 at 8:34 am to Fun Bunch
Vance is done.
Rubio is probably done.
GOP needs to distance itself as far away from Trump as possible.
Rubio is probably done.
GOP needs to distance itself as far away from Trump as possible.
Posted on 11/4/26 at 8:34 am to Fun Bunch
Rubio is talented in many ways. Vance is not there yet. And because Vance became VP, that set the gears in motion for Sherrod Brown to return as senator in Ohio. Not Vance's fault but is the cause anyway.
Posted on 11/4/26 at 8:35 am to Fun Bunch
Assuming Trump doesn't quit, get removed, or die and it's two more years of this garbage (no reason to think he'll start acting rationally now) then they're both sunk.
It has to be an outsider, DeSantis is probably the odds on favorite, but I'd take the field. Someone nobody knows right now....
It has to be an outsider, DeSantis is probably the odds on favorite, but I'd take the field. Someone nobody knows right now....
Posted on 11/4/26 at 8:35 am to Fun Bunch
Can’t have DeSantis.
He wears boots.
He wears boots.
Posted on 11/4/26 at 8:35 am to Fun Bunch
The GOP isn't moving forward until it jettisons Trump and the MAGA mouth breathing wing of the party.
Both are solid conservatives, but have to clear of Trump. I have said for years that Trump is not conservative.
Flame away.
Both are solid conservatives, but have to clear of Trump. I have said for years that Trump is not conservative.
Flame away.
This post was edited on 11/4/26 at 8:37 am
Posted on 11/4/26 at 8:36 am to Fun Bunch
Not good for either. Desantis will have a strong position
Posted on 11/4/26 at 8:36 am to Fun Bunch
Rubio will quit in the next six months in order to get some separation from the Trump administration. Just my opinion.
Vance is somewhat stuck.
Vance is somewhat stuck.
This post was edited on 11/4/26 at 8:37 am
Posted on 11/4/26 at 8:37 am to Fun Bunch
Rubio [yes]
Vance [no]
Vance [no]
Posted on 11/4/26 at 8:37 am to Fun Bunch
Reactive stupidity is an overpowering force.
The same people gloating today with either forget that when they whine about what the democrats will do or else they will blame anything they do on Trump.
I cannot wait.
The same people gloating today with either forget that when they whine about what the democrats will do or else they will blame anything they do on Trump.
I cannot wait.
Posted on 11/4/26 at 8:38 am to Fun Bunch
They're fricked. DeSantis would be a better option
Posted on 11/4/26 at 8:38 am to Gifman
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Desantis will have a strong position
Everyone knows how I feel about Desantis, but the MAGA wing, even at diminishing strength, is never going to vote for him enough to secure anything. They very stupidly still HATE him
Posted on 11/4/26 at 8:38 am to Fun Bunch
Vance is benched for a long time.
Posted on 11/4/26 at 8:39 am to Fun Bunch
I think both of them are talented enough that given space and time they could have a chance
But they would need to resign just about now
I think last night was a repudiation against Trump, and maybe the defense secretary but not necessarily the entire administration
But they would need to resign just about now
I think last night was a repudiation against Trump, and maybe the defense secretary but not necessarily the entire administration
Posted on 11/4/26 at 8:39 am to Fun Bunch
I think 2028 nomination will be a poisoned chalice. It would be narrow tight rope to walk for either Rubio or Vance to win. Only thing that could make them run is if DSA goes completely off the rails in the next 2 years. I'd bet it will be DeSantis. I think all will eye 2032.
Posted on 11/4/26 at 8:41 am to RohanGonzales
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Reactive stupidity is an overpowering force.
Seriously. This board does not react well to adversity. Ready to throw out the entire bench. Completely retarded.
Posted on 11/4/26 at 8:41 am to Fun Bunch
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They very stupidly still HATE him
Frick them. Make them choose. DeSantis or AOC, for instance.
Posted on 11/4/26 at 8:42 am to Fun Bunch
IMO, their political careers died last night. I don't see how either can distance themselves from Trump by '28.
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