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re: What does this massacre mean for Vance and perhaps even Rubio?

Posted on 11/4/26 at 9:05 am to
Posted by Pettifogger
I don't really care, Margaret
Member since Feb 2012
88039 posts
Posted on 11/4/26 at 9:05 am to
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I never liked Vance, think he was an awful pick for VP, and would be a colossally stupid choice for POTUS.

He hasn't done anything. He has never accomplished anything in government. His short time in elected office he got zero bills passed that I am aware of.

He is not a conservative. I simply don't get what we are doing here with him


If this is the reaction to yesterday we quite genuinely have zero hope of any sort of long term stemming the tide, goodness
Posted by McLemore
Member since Dec 2003
35794 posts
Posted on 11/4/26 at 9:05 am to
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MAGA mouth breathing wing of the party


quote:

Flame away.


It is really hard to take anyone seriously these days. About anything.
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
133569 posts
Posted on 11/4/26 at 9:06 am to
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If this is the reaction to yesterday we quite genuinely have zero hope of any sort of long term stemming the tide, goodness



Just to be clear, I am going to support anyone that gets the nom and I am not taking a position as strong as I did last time

Just being honest about Vance.

I'd be a lot happier with Rubio but it is what it is
Posted by TigersSEC2010
Warren, Michigan
Member since Jan 2010
38626 posts
Posted on 11/4/26 at 9:11 am to
Vance is fricked. He should enjoy his last two years in the White House before he’s out of politics forever. Being the face of the Iran war and negotiations was the nail in his political coffin.

Rubio has a shot but he has to get away from Trump ASAP.
Posted by Pettifogger
I don't really care, Margaret
Member since Feb 2012
88039 posts
Posted on 11/4/26 at 9:15 am to
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Just being honest about Vance.



Vance is the only figure in major American politics (on the right) willing to consider the root cause of American decline. If the right is unwilling to hear that, it's over (it is, in fact, meaningfully over).
Posted by AwgustaDawg
CSRA
Member since Jan 2023
15697 posts
Posted on 11/4/26 at 9:41 am to
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If you think the Trump base won't vote for Ron, just imagine Kemp


A gracious plenty among the Trump base are not going to vote at all because they shoved all in emotionally on Trump and their lives are the same. They truly thought a politician winning an election would improve their lives….when all it could ever mean, regardless of party or politician, was they were left to manage their lives themselves. Trump made them feel good and that is all on them.

Add to this the fact that there is no doubt serious talk among the MAGA leadership of third parties and that portion of the Trump base will disenfranchise themselves.
Posted by TigerAxeOK
In the woods and by the waters.
Member since Dec 2016
39043 posts
Posted on 11/4/26 at 9:45 am to
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Vance is done.

Rubio is probably done.

GOP needs to distance itself as far away from Trump as possible.

There's this guy in Florida who happens to be a well-oiled machine of competent governance. Everyone should start paying attention to him for 2028.

Wanna talk about a breath of fresh air? He's it. And after what the Dims are about to do to America for 24 months, he should easily win the Presidency if the Republican base will just stop the stupid infighting and get behind him.
Posted by LsuNav
Sacramento
Member since Mar 2008
2532 posts
Posted on 11/4/26 at 9:49 am to
My gf is a city liberal. She despises Trump but doesn’t have an overly bad opinion of Rubio. Vance is too connected to Trump so he is toast.

I would rather someone else rise to the top.
Posted by Pettifogger
I don't really care, Margaret
Member since Feb 2012
88039 posts
Posted on 11/4/26 at 9:51 am to
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My gf is a city liberal. She despises Trump but doesn’t have an overly bad opinion of Rubio. Vance is too connected to Trump so he is toast.



speaking of toast
Posted by lionward2014
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2015
14874 posts
Posted on 11/4/26 at 11:36 am to
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I'll say it, I guess I don't care anymore.

I never liked Vance, think he was an awful pick for VP, and would be a colossally stupid choice for POTUS.

He hasn't done anything. He has never accomplished anything in government. His short time in elected office he got zero bills passed that I am aware of.

He is not a conservative. I simply don't get what we are doing here with him


Vance had the JRE and Theo Vonn interviews right after being tapped to be VP that sold him really well. He did well in the debate, but that is more a function of Walz being atrocious. Every thing before and after that has exposed him as an unprincipled fraud. He just spews whatever is slightly popular edgy chronically online takes.
Posted by BobBoucher
Member since Jan 2008
18954 posts
Posted on 11/4/26 at 11:40 am to
Vance and Rubio will be the targets of congressional investigations.

Their goal is to muddy and bruise them up so Dems have talking points for 2028.
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