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re: What does this massacre mean for Vance and perhaps even Rubio?

Posted on 11/4/26 at 8:42 am to
Posted by MAADFACTS
Member since Jul 2021
1531 posts
Posted on 11/4/26 at 8:42 am to
Not much. Two years is a long time in politics. Two years ago we were in the throes of the vibe shift that people were acting like would last forever. Short term it means now is the time for Vance to distance himself from Trump on the Iran war, which he had already started to do
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
133569 posts
Posted on 11/4/26 at 8:42 am to
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Seriously. This board does not react well to adversity. Ready to throw out the entire bench. Completely retarded.



If republicans don't react to this they are fricking retarded.
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
133569 posts
Posted on 11/4/26 at 8:43 am to
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I'd bet it will be DeSantis. I think all will eye 2032.


I kind of hope Ron has the sense to see this and run in 2032 instead
Posted by Snipe
Member since Nov 2015
17610 posts
Posted on 11/4/26 at 8:43 am to
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GOP needs to distance itself as far away from Trump as possible.


How much further do you expect them to go, they already hate him and do everything in their power to block everything he tries to do. They even support democrats and their socialist agenda.

Posted by JohnnyKilroy
Cajun Navy Vice Admiral
Member since Oct 2012
42417 posts
Posted on 11/4/26 at 8:45 am to
Vance is completely toast.


Kinda amazing he got this far with little to no principles to fall back on, an H1B wife and having his biggest donor/mentor being openly infatuated with Satan. So kudos to Vance. He overachieved bigly.
Posted by FluffyBunnyFeet
Dallas, TX
Member since Oct 2014
4188 posts
Posted on 11/4/26 at 8:46 am to
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If republicans don't react to this they are fricking retarded.

Overreacting is just as stupid. You don't write off the entire bench.
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
133569 posts
Posted on 11/4/26 at 8:46 am to
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Vance is completely toast.



I'll say it, I guess I don't care anymore.

I never liked Vance, think he was an awful pick for VP, and would be a colossally stupid choice for POTUS.

He hasn't done anything. He has never accomplished anything in government. His short time in elected office he got zero bills passed that I am aware of.

He is not a conservative. I simply don't get what we are doing here with him
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
133569 posts
Posted on 11/4/26 at 8:47 am to
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Overreacting is just as stupid. You don't write off the entire bench.



Who is doing that?

This is a post about looking to add to the bench and deepen it, not make it a 2 person bench
Posted by ArHog
Gulf Coast
Member since Jan 2008
40853 posts
Posted on 11/4/26 at 8:47 am to
Bring on high heels Ron 2028





Posted by FluffyBunnyFeet
Dallas, TX
Member since Oct 2014
4188 posts
Posted on 11/4/26 at 8:48 am to
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Who is doing that?

Anyone suggesting Vance/Rubio are complete non-starters now.
Posted by SippyCup
Gulf Coast
Member since Sep 2008
7203 posts
Posted on 11/4/26 at 8:48 am to
You can guarantee the DSA has been emboldened by tonight. They will not be contained by the rational side of the Democratic Party. A DeSantis/Rubio ticket will sweep the leg.
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
133569 posts
Posted on 11/4/26 at 8:49 am to
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Anyone suggesting Vance/Rubio are complete non-starters now.



That's dumb.

You don't see the logic in saying: "Let's start expanding our scope?"
Posted by AwgustaDawg
CSRA
Member since Jan 2023
15697 posts
Posted on 11/4/26 at 8:49 am to
Brian Kemp. Has some cache amongst moderate Democrats for “Standing up” to Trump in 2020 by doing his job and obeying the law.
Posted by el Gaucho
He/They
Member since Dec 2010
61613 posts
Posted on 11/4/26 at 8:50 am to
They’re both toast


Republicans have to go back to their base and see what works and pandering to the Burger King kids club ain’t it


Republicans need to find their Republican Gavin newsom to run for president not some sea Mexican or Hindu convert


It might have to be Tucker Carlson
Posted by Chingon Ag
Member since Nov 2018
4309 posts
Posted on 11/4/26 at 8:51 am to
I think it was somewhat apparent well before this year that Vance isn't the guy. I'd like to think Rubio still has a chance, but everything is quite unclear after yesterday.
Posted by JacieNY
Member since Jul 2024
2434 posts
Posted on 11/4/26 at 8:52 am to
Rubio is a chameleon, he might survive.

Vance is a snake. Kill it! Kill it!
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
133569 posts
Posted on 11/4/26 at 8:53 am to
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Brian Kemp. Has some cache amongst moderate Democrats for “Standing up” to Trump in 2020 by doing his job and obeying the law.



If you think the Trump base won't vote for Ron, just imagine Kemp
Posted by FluffyBunnyFeet
Dallas, TX
Member since Oct 2014
4188 posts
Posted on 11/4/26 at 8:56 am to
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That's dumb.
I agree. Writing either or both off today is dumb.
quote:

You don't see the logic in saying: "Let's start expanding our scope?"
I do see the logic in that. Add names, fine. Writing off people we all liked just fine 24 hours ago is stupid.
Posted by PJinAtl
Atlanta
Member since Nov 2007
14985 posts
Posted on 11/4/26 at 8:59 am to
Vance needs to just leave politics. Maybe get on with Fox News or be a college professor and raise the kids and enjoy life. He has all of Trump's populism and none of his charisma. Independents won't touch him with a 10 foot pole.

I honestly think the play is for Desantis to leave Florida, have Rubio return to Miami and explore the two of them as a potential ticket. Desantis has what it takes to win with the middle of the road folks as well as a good handle on domestic issues; Rubio has been well schooled in foreign policy as Secretary of State.

To have any fighting chance in '28 you are going to have to appeal to independents and moderates. Georgia now has blue leadership across the state level so they will be backing whoever the Democrats run. That's powerful in a light pink to purple state that carries a ton of electoral votes (and will carry likely more after 2030).
Posted by Klark Kent
Houston via BR
Member since Jan 2008
77012 posts
Posted on 11/4/26 at 9:00 am to
I’ll vote for any of them vs whoever the DSA, errr Democrats are going to run.

Got nothing against Ron. He has the best resume. I like Rubio. I’m mehh on Vance.
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