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re: Was this all done the opposite of how it should have been?

Posted on 3/29/20 at 10:12 pm to
Posted by AUsteriskPride
Albuquerque, NM
Member since Feb 2011
18385 posts
Posted on 3/29/20 at 10:12 pm to
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The elderly are still not staying home. They don’t GAF


Then frick 'em if they decide to test the waters with dire warnings.
Posted by GooseSix
Member since Jun 2012
22465 posts
Posted on 3/29/20 at 10:13 pm to
It's all horse shite. This drama queen society should get a good cleanse at the very least.
Posted by davyjones
NELA
Member since Feb 2019
36717 posts
Posted on 3/29/20 at 10:13 pm to
For so many reasons that's beyond 20/20 hindsight. If China had the problem well before they reported, then the "early on" was a good bit earlier on than we even know.
Posted by Robin Masters
Birmingham
Member since Jul 2010
35915 posts
Posted on 3/29/20 at 10:13 pm to
“Trump you was weavin’ and bobbin’...
Posted by RebelExpress38
In your base, killin your dudes
Member since Apr 2012
14303 posts
Posted on 3/29/20 at 10:16 pm to
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why didn't we quarantine the elderly, sick, and health care professionals early on and provide them support.




The media will whore itself to any story that generates clicks and attention, and they could spin this to hurt trump so it’s a double whammy. Corona Virus is tailor made for cable news. If the virus wasn’t a big deal then people would tune out. It also takes heat of Joe Biden who they will protect at all costs.
Posted by Obtuse1
Westside Bodymore Yo
Member since Sep 2016
30450 posts
Posted on 3/29/20 at 10:21 pm to
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The economy and everyone else could have trucked on along and gathered herd immunity.


The problem with that statement is we don't yet know the extent or length of the human immune response to COVID-19. Many of the immune responses to the coronavirus family are very short-lived. Going all-in on herd immunity could work or it could be devastating, we simply don't know enough about the antibody response to make that call on the medical facts.
Posted by TimeOutdoors
LA
Member since Sep 2014
13430 posts
Posted on 3/29/20 at 10:22 pm to
It wouldn’t have mattered. You saw how many people on here thought this was a non-event just a week ago. You can’t make people be responsible.
Posted by Kickadawgitfeelsgood
Lafayette LA
Member since Nov 2005
14090 posts
Posted on 3/29/20 at 10:22 pm to
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Remember when Trump banned flights from China?

the same Trump who closed travel from the EU, but allowed travel from the UK...knowing the UK had just experienced their largest daily growth to date of the virus.

Yea! I Nothing reminds us of failure in leadership like “Trump travel bans”
This post was edited on 3/29/20 at 10:24 pm
Posted by Toddy
Atlanta
Member since Jul 2010
27251 posts
Posted on 3/29/20 at 10:26 pm to
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It wouldn’t have mattered. You saw how many people on here thought this was a non-event just a week ago. You can’t make people be responsible.




Truth
Posted by Choupique19
The cheap seats
Member since Sep 2005
65399 posts
Posted on 3/29/20 at 10:29 pm to
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We didn't do enough, if any, early on. That's the problem.


The Democrats had Congress too busy chasing impeachment delusions to focus on the American public.
Posted by frogglet
Member since Jul 2018
1161 posts
Posted on 3/29/20 at 10:32 pm to
The only way this idea really works is if we set up some quarantine centers for these people to live in while the rest of us get sick and go about our lives. If a member of their family or anyone who cares for them get sick, they will almost certainly get sick as well, so they can't just live in houses with family or nursing homes where the staff goes back to their normal lives after work.
Posted by Homesick Tiger
Greenbrier, AR
Member since Nov 2006
56146 posts
Posted on 3/29/20 at 10:32 pm to
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The vast majority of us aren't at risk.




At risk of what, having the disease or dying from it? The infectious numbers of 19-64 year-old say otherwise. It's higher than the 65 plusers. That's the vast majority of people. Their percent of death is lower than the old folks but they are still carriers nonetheless.
Posted by Homesick Tiger
Greenbrier, AR
Member since Nov 2006
56146 posts
Posted on 3/29/20 at 10:37 pm to
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The elderly are still not staying home


That's horseshite.
Posted by Geauxgurt
Member since Sep 2013
13499 posts
Posted on 3/29/20 at 10:38 pm to
1) China has not been forthcoming with information on this despite what some people want to believe.

2) if you count obesity as a risk factor, you are still bringing nearly half the workforce home depending on how you define it.

I think the uproar against Trump closing travel from China sealed out fates with this. He did the right thing and was getting crucified for it. Instead of being more aggressive, he became more hesitant and then others didn’t take anything seriously because they would just blame him if anything went wrong.

Posted by Auburn80
Backwater, TN
Member since Nov 2017
10010 posts
Posted on 3/29/20 at 11:04 pm to
We cannot do what South Korea did without giving up a lot of rights in this country. A lot of what they did is illegal here.
Posted by davyjones
NELA
Member since Feb 2019
36717 posts
Posted on 3/29/20 at 11:06 pm to
Nats right. I believe Hong Kong and Singapore have done same. And of course China has done gosh knows what.
Posted by Ollieoxenfree99
Member since Aug 2018
7748 posts
Posted on 3/29/20 at 11:08 pm to
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Should have closed borders In Jan an quarantined international travel


Would have been overridden by some leftist judge in WA or HI.

No matter what, Trump is impeded and the bad guy. You know it to be true.
Posted by David_DJS
Member since Aug 2005
22713 posts
Posted on 3/29/20 at 11:13 pm to
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The problem with that statement is we don't yet know the extent or length of the human immune response to COVID-19. Many of the immune responses to the coronavirus family are very short-lived. Going all-in on herd immunity could work or it could be devastating, we simply don't know enough about the antibody response to make that call on the medical facts.



Exactly why shelter in place/Martial Law will not be effective. You said it yourself - if there's no long-lasting herd immunity with this virus, then 8 weeks after we all come out from hiding we're going to be right back where we are tonight.

There is no rationale for shutting the country down for this. Zero.
Posted by FlexDawg
Member since Jan 2018
14497 posts
Posted on 3/29/20 at 11:18 pm to
Should have quarantined the old and at risk while letting everyone else go about as normal. They catch it and build up the antibodies so that when everyone else gets out of quarantine it won’t spread to them.

Herd immunity.
This post was edited on 3/29/20 at 11:19 pm
Posted by DownSouthJukin
1x tRant Poster of the Millennium
Member since Jan 2014
31776 posts
Posted on 3/29/20 at 11:27 pm to
It’s what I posted a few weeks back-but no politician had the balls to tell old, sick people to stay inside for a few months lest they be labeled as haters of the elderly and the ill in an election year.
This post was edited on 3/29/20 at 11:33 pm
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