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re: Was the bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki genocidal?
Posted on 4/17/24 at 5:50 pm to Deuces
Posted on 4/17/24 at 5:50 pm to Deuces
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For the people whom claim Israel is in the process of a genocide amongst the Palestinians. We literally evaporated two cities with populations of over 100,000 with a small military presence. Not only did this happen, but it’s celebrated by our country to this day. This seems to interest me. What say you?
Genocidal is when you have control of a population and kill them anyway. Not close to what US did there
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Posted on 4/17/24 at 6:06 pm to Deuces
It was an act of war. War is hell.
“It is well that war is so terrible, or we should grow too fond of it.”
- Robert E. Lee
“It is well that war is so terrible, or we should grow too fond of it.”
- Robert E. Lee
Posted on 4/17/24 at 6:11 pm to Deuces
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Shortly before the crew of the B-29 Superfortress Enola Gay completed their mission to bomb Hiroshima on August 6, 1945, U.S. pilots dropped leaflets over Japan warning citizens of coming destruction.
Posted on 4/17/24 at 6:12 pm to Deuces
You’ll have to excuse me, but this reads like the reasoning of a third grader.
Had it been genocidal, we would never have stopped bombing, even after they finally surrendered.
Additionally, the fire bombings in Japan caused many more deaths than the 2 atomic bombs combined did. BUT…. It’s not as sensational to discuss incendiary bombings as it is nuclear weapons, so that’s where you people get lost and confused.
Had it been genocidal, we would never have stopped bombing, even after they finally surrendered.
Additionally, the fire bombings in Japan caused many more deaths than the 2 atomic bombs combined did. BUT…. It’s not as sensational to discuss incendiary bombings as it is nuclear weapons, so that’s where you people get lost and confused.
Posted on 4/17/24 at 6:31 pm to Deuces
The intent wasn’t to kill all the Japanese people. It was done as a deterrent to end the war. Genocide is the intent to exterminate an entire population.
Posted on 4/17/24 at 6:34 pm to Deuces
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t’s celebrated by our country to this day.
It's never been celebrated. You completely worthless sack.
Posted on 4/17/24 at 6:37 pm to Deuces
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Was the bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki genocidal?
No.
But they were unnecessary.
More civilians were killed in the fire bombing raids over Tokyo. There are some articles by people who have studied the actions of some Japanese officials post war and have come to the conclusion Japan was beginning to break from the bombings and knowing they could not militarily beat us.
Posted on 4/17/24 at 6:41 pm to PsychTiger
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It is largely thought that the bombs saved lives on both sides with what an invasion of Japan proper would have resulted in.
If anyone has seen James May's series where he goes to Japan, he interviews a Japanese-American history professor who makes this exact point.
He makes it clear that Japan were the aggressors, and suggests the victims didn't die in vain because the attacks allowed Japan to ultimately survive as a nation.
Interestingly, I heard amazon cut the interview out of that episode.
Posted on 4/17/24 at 6:42 pm to Deuces
Post less and learn some history
Posted on 4/17/24 at 8:25 pm to Deuces
100% yes.
Truman is burning in hell
Truman is burning in hell
This post was edited on 4/17/24 at 8:26 pm
Posted on 4/17/24 at 8:35 pm to Hayekian serf
If you think dropping of these weapons were bad look into the fire bombing of Tokyo March 9/10 of 1945. Most history books don’t even mention it.
100,000k dead in one night. Over 1,000,000 homeless. Unknown/countless injuries……
100,000k dead in one night. Over 1,000,000 homeless. Unknown/countless injuries……
Posted on 4/17/24 at 8:42 pm to Deuces
No. It was designed to avoid civilian targets. We didn’t drop it on Tokyo. Besides, the Japanese were given ample opportunity to surrender before it got to that point, not to mention that it could have been avoided had they not started the war in the first place.
Posted on 4/17/24 at 8:45 pm to Cuz413
I love some articles by people 75 years removed.
Could two bombs off the coast have been enough? Maybe. Maybe not. Did the Japanese rape, behead, torture and cannibalize our men and women?
Yes.
They. Got. Off. Easy.
Could two bombs off the coast have been enough? Maybe. Maybe not. Did the Japanese rape, behead, torture and cannibalize our men and women?
Yes.
They. Got. Off. Easy.
Posted on 4/17/24 at 9:27 pm to goatmilker
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Could two bombs off the coast have been enough? Maybe. Maybe not. Did the Japanese rape, behead, torture and cannibalize our men and women?
Yes.
They. Got. Off. Easy.
I'm sure that 10 year old school boy had it coming.
Should we bomb a military installation? Nah, let's bomb civilians
Now I ask why were we on a collision course with Japan? Let's not forget we had our own ambitions of building out the US empire into the Philippines, Guam, and other territories. And such put us in a direct line with Japan's empire building desires.
Posted on 4/17/24 at 9:43 pm to Deuces
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Was the bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki genocidal?
The Japanese’s had to be shown we could initiate their country without invading. They wouldn’t have surrendered otherwise.
Anyone that disputes this needs to read the story about the Japanese soldier hiding out in the jungles in the Philippians until the 1970’s. He wouldn’t surrender until the Jap consulate cabled a letter saying the war was over and they lost.
Posted on 4/17/24 at 9:45 pm to goatmilker
Tell me you have no idea why the nukes were dropped without telling me you have no idea why the nukes were dropped.
Posted on 4/17/24 at 9:48 pm to geauxpurple
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We didn’t drop it on Tokyo.
One reason Tokyo wasn’t a target is it could have killed Hirohito thus they never would have surrendered.
Posted on 4/18/24 at 12:02 am to Deuces
No.
Hundreds of thousands of Japanese lives were saved because the Emperor of Japan was persuaded to surrender because of the bombs.
Not to mention the American lives that would have been lost invading the island and subduing it
Hundreds of thousands of Japanese lives were saved because the Emperor of Japan was persuaded to surrender because of the bombs.
Not to mention the American lives that would have been lost invading the island and subduing it
Posted on 4/18/24 at 4:57 am to lsufan1971
I've read that as well. Somebody with the authority to order a surrender had to left alive.
Posted on 4/18/24 at 6:12 am to hogcard1964
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We should have dropped a few more.
one of our missiles on Hanoi would have been sweet.
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