re: Voters in California overwhelmingly oppose Gov Newsom's plan to gerrymander the State

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Would you support a nationwide ban? Every state maps drawn by an independent commission or something along those lines. We can argue about the details but in general, would you support it?

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Once the following is done nationwide? Probably…

MA: 36% Republican, O seats
Total delegates -9, seats “lost”: 3

CT: 42% Republican, O seats
Total delegates -5, seats “lost”: 2

ME: 46% Republican, O seats
Total delegates -2, seats “lost”: 1

NM: 46% Republican, O seats
Total delegates -3, seats “lost”: 1

NH: 48% Republican, 0 seats
Total delegates -2, seats “lost”:1

RI: 42% Republican, 0 seats
Total delegates -2, seats “lost”: 1

HI: 38% Republican, O seats
Total delegates -2, seats “lost”: 1

Republicans “should” pick up 10 seats in those states.

In California, Republicans should pick up more seats as well.

The Dems have rigged shite nationwide. Some Republican states have as well.

I say you align your district maps with your affiliation.

Proportional representation based on party affiliation.

That may include an Independent Party as well at some point, provided that they get their shite together.

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How do we stop those lines being drawn like that then (politics, race)?

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Geographic boundaries such as county / parish lines.

shite sounds like we agree. What’s the calculus on the Dems side, how many seats should they pick up? (Say based on proportional representation)

I doubt it.

He’s going to need a clear majority to get it done. He can’t have ambiguous language and risk half of those “confused voters” going the wrong way.

But I do hate when they do that FWIW.

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Trump trying to steal seats in Texas

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Humor me. Using the 2024 voting results what would the net be? I know they pick up 2-3 in NC, 3-4 in Tx. Several other states are more red representative than their % of votes.

And we have all seen how playing by a different set of the rules has worked out for the Republicans. frick em. If the left wants this to end, then they must take the first steps to redistricting fairly.

Wouldn’t you agree?

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California doesn’t abide by what the voters want. If they want certain person in a certain position it happens

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Exactly!!!
The people of CA literally voted 3x AGAINST gay marriage. The courts disregarded all 3 votes and legalized it anyway.

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Trump trying to steal seats in Texas.

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regardless of how astute you are - this reveals the overwhelming ignorance you display wrt the actual facts of the matter.

Either ignorance or devotion to evil aspirations of the democrat party

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If Texas does it, absolutely. If roles were reversed so would you. Eye for an eye.

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California is already heavily gerrymandered for democrats.

Texas is gerrymandered for democrats as well.

Many Republican states were gerrymandered to ensure democratic districts.

California is just going to make it. More like California, but republican. That would be fair.

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What I actually support (just like every other sane reasonable person) neither state should do it. 

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California has already done it.

They are roughly 40 percent Republican yet only 17 percent of districts are Republican. Texas has a higher percentage democratic districts because the previous courts rulings which seem to be likely to be reversed.

Some democratic states have no Republican districts. If all Republicans states gerrymandered to the degree that California is, we would pick up over 20 seats i believe.

That would be fair. Unless democrats ungerrymander their states, which isn't going to happen.