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re: Voters in California overwhelmingly oppose Gov Newsom's plan to gerrymander the State

Posted on 8/18/25 at 7:03 am to
Posted by mwade91383
Washington DC
Member since Mar 2010
7889 posts
Posted on 8/18/25 at 7:03 am to
I mean the Dems did here in VA a few years back, essentially gave away a seat in favor of independent more fair maps which do a better job of matching % of representation w the % of voters.

Texas is a 42% ish blue state, shouldn’t they have roughly that % in representation? Isnt that that the same argument ppl are making about republicans in New England?

Shouldn’t that be mostly reflected in every state? That’s the point.
Posted by spacecitydude
HTX
Member since Nov 2021
272 posts
Posted on 8/18/25 at 7:38 am to
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California voters aren't as dumb as people think.


You're right. They're dumber.
Posted by lowhound
Effie
Member since Aug 2014
10410 posts
Posted on 8/18/25 at 7:42 am to
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BS. They had their chance to 'oppose' Newsom.

They chose him.


I wouldn't trust any voting apparatus in California as being neutral.
Posted by AUFANATL
Member since Dec 2007
5356 posts
Posted on 8/18/25 at 8:33 am to
quote:

Texas is a 42% ish blue state, shouldn’t they have roughly that % in representation? Isnt that that the same argument ppl are making about republicans in New England?

Shouldn’t that be mostly reflected in every state? That’s the point.


You can't make districts that are representative of the overall voting patterns in every state. Some states only have one or two districts and there's no way to avoid a winner take all outcome in those states. Also in some states, the majority is simply too interspersed. For example Massachusetts has no republican district but you literally can't logically draw one. Every nook and cranny of that state votes blue. Same with Oklahoma.

But as a general rule, Democrats are at a disadvantage here because their voters tend to congregate in urban areas, coastal enclaves and college towns. They avoid suburbs and rural areas. You have to fill every inch of the canvas with paint and when all the blue paint hides in a few select areas, the red paint benefits from all the free space as a matter of geometry.
Posted by mwade91383
Washington DC
Member since Mar 2010
7889 posts
Posted on 8/18/25 at 8:57 am to
In every state, no you can’t. Agreed. Unless we adopt a new system (Yang?).

But as states get bigger/more populated you absolutely can mirror those proportions in a reasonable manner.
Posted by VABuckeye
NOVA
Member since Dec 2007
38283 posts
Posted on 8/18/25 at 8:58 am to
"MAGA Voice"?

Maybe just a wee bit biased?
Posted by Vandyrone
Nashville, TN
Member since Dec 2012
7983 posts
Posted on 8/18/25 at 9:02 am to
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California voters aren't as dumb as people think.

Nope. They’re retard-level dumb.
Posted by CitizenK
BR
Member since Aug 2019
15769 posts
Posted on 8/18/25 at 9:02 am to
Newscum cares about Silicon Valley financial backers. They have overpromised and underdelivered, including Musk. The state will also not find any buyer for any of the closing refineries. No one wants to do business in CA in refining. Valero's stock went up the day after it announced it was closing. Refiners finding it far too expensive to operate in CA is NOT new. It started in the late 1980's
Posted by FMtTXtiger
Member since Oct 2018
5321 posts
Posted on 8/18/25 at 9:21 am to
they way they run that state makes me wonder if they really chose Gavin.
Posted by lsuson
Metairie
Member since Oct 2013
15353 posts
Posted on 8/18/25 at 9:27 am to
FAFO
Posted by jbdawgs03
Athens
Member since Oct 2017
13973 posts
Posted on 8/18/25 at 9:40 am to
Oh look another communist
Posted by Sweep Da Leg
Member since Sep 2013
3684 posts
Posted on 8/18/25 at 3:03 pm to
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BS. They had their chance to 'oppose' Newsom. They chose him.


Bullllshit. They rig everything there and I can’t wait for it to be oroven
Posted by Sweep Da Leg
Member since Sep 2013
3684 posts
Posted on 8/18/25 at 3:04 pm to
I’ll also add they just had 3.1 million illegal/invalid registrations from the voter rolls. Funny Kamala won over Trump by that margin I think. And they’re not done removing yet. Gonna make stuffing ballots harder
Posted by SouthEasternKaiju
SouthEast... you figure it out
Member since Aug 2021
47232 posts
Posted on 8/18/25 at 3:06 pm to

CA needs to fix itself.
Posted by Bandit1980
God's Country
Member since Nov 2019
4618 posts
Posted on 8/18/25 at 3:37 pm to
Let's see how honest you are: Have jackass Dems ever done this? Are there any states that have ZERO Republican reps in them?

You're gonna talk about everyone else, throw some more of your BS at us and see how it goes. Dems have done this forever, but now it's not right for others to play by those same rules? Kinda hurts the Dems iddy-biddy feelings.
Posted by Athis
I AM Charlie Kirk....
Member since Aug 2016
16439 posts
Posted on 8/18/25 at 4:17 pm to
They will probably do it anyway...
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