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re: Vice News: A disturbing number of Americans qualify as "right wing authoritarian"

Posted on 6/29/21 at 4:09 pm to
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
69306 posts
Posted on 6/29/21 at 4:09 pm to
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You sure took that to an extreme


I am taking issue with the characterization of “comply in the moment” advocates as being authoritarian in nature.

Most officer involved shootings stem from traffic stops. Personally, I think traffic stops are mostly an unnecessary use of police resources. Most are just an excuse to search for drugs or guns which have no basis being illegal in the first place. Inspection stickers are just a racket. Any crime punishable by a fine does not require a traffic stop, imo. And most of the “crimes” punishable by fine being enforced this way are only enforced because they’re a source of revenue for the police department. Fines from penalties should never be a source of revenue for anyone involved in the investigation or enforcement of said fines as it encourages abusive and unsafe behaviors that prioritize revenue generation over public safety.

A traffic stop should only be necessitated by the driver engaging in conduct so dangerous that said driver must be removed from the road. If what they’re doing isn’t dangerous enough to warrant an arrest and time in jail, it’s probably not dangerous enough to necessitate being illegal either.
Posted by Sentrius
Fort Rozz
Member since Jun 2011
64757 posts
Posted on 6/29/21 at 4:10 pm to
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I don't 100% agree but I'm getting to the same place about libertarianism and how ideological neutrality (on an American L-R spectrum) won't win this war.



Might makes right.

We've become so and too comfortable in western 1st world civilization that we've forgotten that's the norm of world history and denying that is to deny human nature.

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I think it's amusing that after years of being moderate cucks you and I just might evolve into the most radical conservatives on this board



I'm a guy who was extremely disappointed that Trump did not use the insurrection act to put down the BLM rioters and deliver some brutal law and order and just hid behind bullshite political calculations for some BLEXIT that was never ever going to happen.

I understood that voters respect strength, toughness and willingness to do what it takes to maintain law and order.

It's no accident as to why Trump did worse with white men in 2020 compared to 2016.
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
69306 posts
Posted on 6/29/21 at 4:12 pm to
Because of hundreds of thousands of fraudulent mail-in votes in suburban counties across America.
Posted by LSU Jax
Gator Country Hell
Member since Sep 2006
10395 posts
Posted on 6/29/21 at 4:13 pm to
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c on z

Jesus you are one dumb motherfricker.
Posted by BuckyCheese
Member since Jan 2015
57778 posts
Posted on 6/29/21 at 4:14 pm to
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I completely agree that if BLM protested a Trump win at the Capitol in the same way, conservatives would have called them terrorists and said "play stupid games..."


Absolutely the majority would.

Hell, while I would love to see a group of Antifa mowed down with a .50 I also know that is not how our country is supposed to work.

I'd rather not cheat the hangman.
Posted by Sentrius
Fort Rozz
Member since Jun 2011
64757 posts
Posted on 6/29/21 at 4:16 pm to
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Because of hundreds of thousands of fraudulent mail-in votes in suburban counties across America.



Or a lot of left leaning 3rd party voters who hated Hillary went home to Biden.
Posted by stlslick
St.Louis,Mo
Member since Nov 2012
14607 posts
Posted on 6/29/21 at 4:17 pm to
vice

Posted by Logician
Grinning Colonizer
Member since Jul 2013
4913 posts
Posted on 6/29/21 at 4:21 pm to
the side that trips over themselves to censor, enforce never-ending mask mandates, and not allow gathering for fear of spreading misinformation--just to name a few very recent examples--thinks the other side are the authoritarians? LOLOLOL

the stereotypical "right winger" wants more freedoms and no mandates. the stereotypical "left winger" wants lockdowns and government control over most aspects of everyone's life. who's the supporter of authoritarianism?
Posted by Knight of Old
New Hampshire
Member since Jul 2007
12576 posts
Posted on 6/29/21 at 4:25 pm to
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The study used authoritarian researcher Bob Altemeyer
When real life is more funny than the jokes trying to write about it…
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
69306 posts
Posted on 6/29/21 at 4:26 pm to
Freedoms are just a smokescreen for oppressing women and people of color, brah! Didn’t you get the memo?
Posted by fjlee90
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2016
8518 posts
Posted on 6/29/21 at 4:26 pm to
I don’t know c on z. I’ve been fighting for smaller government from the right for a long while.

How can I be authoritarian with limited government stances?

Projection. Projection is how I have been painted as such.
Posted by Bomont
Member since May 2021
975 posts
Posted on 6/29/21 at 4:28 pm to
Are you related to the Fonz?
Posted by Smeg
Member since Aug 2018
14378 posts
Posted on 6/29/21 at 5:01 pm to
First realize the left practically wants total anarchy. They don't even want to see charges pressed against antifa members who throw Molotov cocktails at vehicles full of police officers. They want to defund the police. Anything to the right of absolute chaos is "authoritarian" to them.
Posted by BuckyCheese
Member since Jan 2015
57778 posts
Posted on 6/29/21 at 5:04 pm to
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First realize the left practically wants total anarchy. They don't even want to see charges pressed against antifa members who throw Molotov cocktails at vehicles full of police officers. They want to defund the police. Anything to the right of absolute chaos is "authoritarian" to them.



No.

They want people outside of their political ideology arrested/jailed/killed.

Very authoritarian.
Posted by TigerAxeOK
Where I lay my head is home.
Member since Dec 2016
35451 posts
Posted on 6/29/21 at 5:09 pm to
JFC! If you're not a liberal communist, you're a Nazi. It's like there's not a 99.5% gray area.
Posted by AURaptor
South
Member since Aug 2018
11958 posts
Posted on 6/29/21 at 5:11 pm to
If denouncing CRT and BLM makes me an 'authoritarian ', count me in.

Posted by Logician
Grinning Colonizer
Member since Jul 2013
4913 posts
Posted on 6/29/21 at 5:20 pm to
the left is The Man.

they control all news and media except for a small sliver of talk radio and some of fox news. they control all of academia. they control all of hollywood and every movie, tv show, and commercial. they control all of big tech. they control all of social media. they control every major search engine on the internet. they control most major corporations now. they've been in control of every major city in america for decades.

name me one institution of any significance at all that they don't control.

AND YET, institutional racism is rampant? how can that be when the ones that say they aren't racist are in control of every significant institution.

it's either: 1) nothing needs to be done because it's already not racist, or 2) they're actually the oppressors.

it has to be one or the other.
Posted by thebigmuffaletta
Member since Aug 2017
15433 posts
Posted on 6/29/21 at 5:20 pm to
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They’re certainly not wrong.


The left supports:

Gun bans and confiscation

Using the legal system against political enemies

Higher taxes

Regulations

Central economic planning (Green New Deal)

Lockdowns

Forced masking

Forced vaccination

Government run healthcare

Forcing children to learn CRT

Posted by ApexTiger
cary nc
Member since Oct 2003
56169 posts
Posted on 6/29/21 at 5:23 pm to
Translation

"Look over there why we control everything for the sheep"
Posted by bird35
Georgia
Member since Sep 2012
13423 posts
Posted on 6/29/21 at 5:30 pm to
A strong desire to BE LEFT ALONE is NOT authoritarian!!!!!!!!


Screw Vice.
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