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re: USSC Sides With E Jean Carroll
Posted on 6/29/26 at 2:13 pm to Snipe
Posted on 6/29/26 at 2:13 pm to Snipe
quote:
Pay the lady and get this behind you.
This is what our justice system has become.
Not guilt or innocence, but just give'em some money so they will go away.
Academia is the root for a lot of the issues we currently have within Corporate America, mass media and the judiciary. All of these institutions have people in high places who eagerly drank the leftist Kool Aid while attending university.
Posted on 6/29/26 at 2:19 pm to FredBear
There are literally thousands of jury verdicts that get made on less than that evidence all the time. The civil burden is a preponderance of the evidence--51%--relatively low. None of them go to SCOTUS.
That is the point of jury verdicts under our system--we leave them to the jury, and appellate courts don't overturn them unless the trial judge made some legal procedural error (admitting bad evidence, incorrect instructions, etc.). It is incredibly rare for a civil jury verdict to be overturned based on the facts or them just getting it wrong. Trial juries get tremendous deference as the initial finders of fact. That's the law, and SCOTUS honored it.
Unless you want the jury system to not mean anything, SCOTUS made the correct decision not to review. And if it weren't Trump, no one would even care, and it wouldn't have even been appealed, because he's the only person in the country who is this litigious.
Of course, there's also an argument that if it weren't Trump, the lawsuit might not have been brought in the first place, but that's not on review by SCOTUS now.
That is the point of jury verdicts under our system--we leave them to the jury, and appellate courts don't overturn them unless the trial judge made some legal procedural error (admitting bad evidence, incorrect instructions, etc.). It is incredibly rare for a civil jury verdict to be overturned based on the facts or them just getting it wrong. Trial juries get tremendous deference as the initial finders of fact. That's the law, and SCOTUS honored it.
Unless you want the jury system to not mean anything, SCOTUS made the correct decision not to review. And if it weren't Trump, no one would even care, and it wouldn't have even been appealed, because he's the only person in the country who is this litigious.
Of course, there's also an argument that if it weren't Trump, the lawsuit might not have been brought in the first place, but that's not on review by SCOTUS now.
This post was edited on 6/29/26 at 2:39 pm
Posted on 6/29/26 at 2:37 pm to Tigerdew
quote:
There's literally no evidence against Trump
You don't need evidence when you have a jury pool that 98% hates the defendant before a single argument is made.
Posted on 6/29/26 at 2:53 pm to NorthTiger
quote:Good thing there's no evidence of him doing that.
No, it’s illegal to molest a women.
quote:Not what was argued in CIVIL court.
illegal
Clown.
Posted on 6/29/26 at 3:11 pm to Gravitiger
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because he's the only person in the country who is this litigious.
it takes a big set of balls to say something that impressively retarded
Posted on 6/29/26 at 3:12 pm to udtiger
quote:Thanks!
it takes a big set of balls
New York only amended their SLAPP laws because of Trump...
This post was edited on 6/29/26 at 3:17 pm
Posted on 6/29/26 at 3:16 pm to blueboy
quote:Perhaps you didn't read my post.
Yeah, affirming the judgement, siding with Carroll.
I agree it sucks, but your cope is not cutting it.
But to be clear, SCOTUS declined to hear the case (denied certiorari). It did not issue a ruling affirming the facts or the jury’s findings itself. PERIOD
As I stated what Roberts & Co did was worse IMO than if they had heard the case and found against Trump, because the result is identical, but the method is cowardly. Cope with it yourself.
Posted on 6/29/26 at 3:19 pm to Gravitiger
quote:There was literally NO EVIDENCE against DJT other than the lying claim Carrol brought to court.
There are literally thousands of jury verdicts that get made on less than that evidence all the time.
Posted on 6/29/26 at 3:23 pm to Obtuse1
quote:
I have zero sympathy for anyone with poor enough judgment to hire Alina Habba to represent them in a case of this import
So quality of the evidence doesn’t mean anything to you. Duly noted.
Posted on 6/29/26 at 3:24 pm to NC_Tigah
quote:It didn't have to. 'Siding with' doesn't have to mean affirming the facts. She won. PERIOD.
It did not issue a ruling affirming the facts or the jury’s findings
It is you who must cope.
Posted on 6/29/26 at 3:30 pm to blueboy
quote:It does in this case.
'Siding with' doesn't have to mean affirming the facts.
Again, you either didn't understand the finding, or you didn't understand the post you were responding to, or as it increasingly appears, your understood neither of those.
Posted on 6/29/26 at 3:32 pm to NorthTiger
quote:
it’s illegal to molest a women.
I doubt that is going to stop you.
Posted on 6/29/26 at 3:36 pm to NC_Tigah
quote:Holy shite, just get it. The appeal failed. She gets $5 mil. She won. It sucks, but it's the way it is.
It does in this case.
You're arguing semantics, man. What useless shite is that?
This post was edited on 6/29/26 at 3:38 pm
Posted on 6/29/26 at 3:44 pm to blueboy
quote:Yes
The appeal failed. She gets $5 mil.
quote:Read Carefully ...
You're arguing semantics, man. What useless shite is that?
BECAUSE WHAT THE COWARDS DID WAS NOT ONLY TO DENY THE APPEAL, BUT TO AVOID HAVING TO REVIEW THE NY CORRUPT PROCESS LEADING TO THE CASE IN THE FIRST PLACE. AS WITH TX V PA, THIS IS NOT SIMPLY A BAD FINDING, IT IS A DERELICTION.
Posted on 6/29/26 at 3:55 pm to TBoy
quote:
We really need a right winger gay chat board. All day, every day, right wingers try to inject gay stuff into every thread. As a straight male, I find all this right wing overt gayness isn’t appropriate for normal discussion.
Relax my man. They are just doing it to make you feel comfortable with your life choices. Don't get offended. We all know and we don't care that you like the taste of dong.
Posted on 6/29/26 at 3:59 pm to Obtuse1
quote:
I have zero sympathy for anyone with poor enough judgment to hire Alina Habba to represent them in a case of this import.
“Kind of deserved to be ran through the wringer based on bullshìt allegations because I don’t like the lawyer he hired”
Would anyone be surprised to find out this poster is a left wing lawyer?
Posted on 6/29/26 at 4:09 pm to soonerinlOUisiana
quote:
So quality of the evidence doesn’t mean anything to you. Duly noted.
The quality of the evidence means very little if your attorney is too incompetent to enter evidence into the record correctly. That is first trial advocacy class level work. Anyone who has the means to hire anyone he wants but hires an attorney who has never tried a civil case has very poor judgment. Add to that, he is a hugely litigious person, so he should have a Rolodex full of competant council. Hire a U12 team to play a D1 team and the outcome is cemented before the game starts.
Posted on 6/29/26 at 5:01 pm to Obtuse1
quote:Dude, Trump could have employed the reincarnation of Clarence Darrow. He'd have still received the equivalent of Emmet Till's Tallahatchie County jury "fairness."
I have zero sympathy for anyone with poor enough judgment to hire Alina Habba to represent them in a case of this import.
We are living a complete throwback in courtroom justice, only instead of skin color, politics is the origin of our neo-injustice
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