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re: USSC Sides With E Jean Carroll
Posted on 6/29/26 at 7:50 pm to NC_Tigah
Posted on 6/29/26 at 7:50 pm to NC_Tigah
quote:We'll never know, because he hired the equivalent of Elle Woods instead.
Dude, Trump could have employed the reincarnation of Clarence Darrow. He'd have still received the equivalent of Emmet Till's Tallahatchie County jury "fairness."
We are living a complete throwback in courtroom justice, only instead of skin color, politics is the origin of our neo-injustice
He fricked around and found out.
This post was edited on 6/29/26 at 7:52 pm
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Posted on 6/29/26 at 7:55 pm to N.O. via West-Cal
quote:
very unfavorable jurisdiction
Even that is an understatement.
It was a rigged show trial that the commies of the USSR would have been proud of.
Check Tardzana’s post.
It confirms as much.
quote:
“I got a really bad jury verdict”—and I agree with you that it was—is not a basis for the court to grant cert. it only takes four justices to grant cert and he didn’t even get that.
All true.
Posted on 6/30/26 at 6:13 am to Penrod
One who's reportedly accused 6 other men of having sexually assaulted her in the past.
Posted on 6/30/26 at 6:15 am to blueboy
quote:Jury obviously disagreed
and win based on no real evidence from a woman who has repeatedly, unsuccessfully tried to sue rich, powerful men for 'raping' her.
Posted on 6/30/26 at 6:26 am to RFK
What are your slip and fall folks saying?
Posted on 6/30/26 at 6:27 am to Snipe
quote:
This is what our justice system has become.
Yep it in some places has devolved into a kangaroo court where lady justice is no longer blind, a lie repeated enough becomes treated as a fact, and judges rule based on their emotions instead of evidence, party affiliation, or where they graduated law school.
Posted on 6/30/26 at 6:28 am to RFK
quote:As did Emmett Till's. You think that is funny?
Jury obviously disagreed
Posted on 6/30/26 at 6:31 am to NC_Tigah
DNA evidence of a sexual assault is a helpful piece of evidence, but a jury can conclude it happened without it.
Even if so, specially-trained medical professionals must collect it soon after an assault.
Lastly, the intricacies of DNA are explainable by a very few. I’ve seen M.D.s struggle to put it into words.
Regardless, Carrol’s suit was a civil one. The burden of proof is much lower than a criminal case.
Even if so, specially-trained medical professionals must collect it soon after an assault.
Lastly, the intricacies of DNA are explainable by a very few. I’ve seen M.D.s struggle to put it into words.
Regardless, Carrol’s suit was a civil one. The burden of proof is much lower than a criminal case.
Posted on 6/30/26 at 6:35 am to NC_Tigah
He’s busy sending in one of his unemployed clients in for a cervical fusion. He’ll respond when he’s able.
Posted on 6/30/26 at 6:35 am to RFK
The burden of proof is much lower or in this case no proof is fine.
Posted on 6/30/26 at 6:47 am to themunch
“Proof” is not a term our justice system uses in the same sense you probably mean it here.
What should be required to prove assault? A confession? Video of the rape?
Proof is relative and in the eye of the beholder.
Testimony from the victim is often the only proof we have. It takes unspeakable courage to face an accuser in court (as she did, if you recall Trump was forced to sit in silence by the judge as she recounted the assault.)
The jury decided this, and the other evidence, cumulatively “proved” the assault by a preponderance of the evidence.
What should be required to prove assault? A confession? Video of the rape?
Proof is relative and in the eye of the beholder.
Testimony from the victim is often the only proof we have. It takes unspeakable courage to face an accuser in court (as she did, if you recall Trump was forced to sit in silence by the judge as she recounted the assault.)
The jury decided this, and the other evidence, cumulatively “proved” the assault by a preponderance of the evidence.
Posted on 6/30/26 at 6:50 am to RFK
quote:
The jury decided this, and the other evidence, cumulatively “proved” the assault by a preponderance of the evidence.
A jury full of TDS is not jury at all
Posted on 6/30/26 at 6:55 am to RFK
I was railroaded as a young man on a the word of a woman. I was arrested and jailed. Put through court. fined. I am still innocent. Kangaroo courts in the US suck big time and they are everywhere.
This court has shown me nothing to change my opinion of courts and judges.
This court has shown me nothing to change my opinion of courts and judges.
Posted on 6/30/26 at 7:00 am to themunch
quote:It sounds like you were either convicted or plead guilty.
I was railroaded as a young man on a the word of a woman. I was arrested and jailed. Put through court. fined. I am still innocent. Kangaroo courts in the US suck big time and they are everywhere.
And as with this trial, I’m sure all of the facts aren’t in your post…
Posted on 6/30/26 at 7:07 am to NC_Tigah
quote:
There was literally NO EVIDENCE against DJT other than the lying claim Carrol brought to court.
Did Trump’s defense team properly impeach her and her corroborating witnesses?
SCOTUS was never going to substitute itself for the credibility determinations of a jury.
Posted on 6/30/26 at 7:08 am to RFK
quote:WTF are you blabbering about?
DNA evidence of a sexual assault is a helpful piece of evidence, but a jury can conclude it happened without it.
Even if so, specially-trained medical professionals must collect it soon after an assault.
Lastly, the intricacies of DNA are explainable by a very few. I’ve seen M.D.s struggle to put it into words.
quote:The entire burden of proof in E Jean Carrol's case was simply for her to bring the charge. There was no burden beyond that. There were points in time where she was clearly duplicitous, it did not matter.
The burden of proof is much lower than a criminal case.
The actual burden in the case was for Trump to prove himself innocent. Due to the huge variances in description, timeframe, and details allowed in the accusation, there was absolutely no way for Trump to defend himself in a circumstance where, as stated, his defense unbelievably mandated proof of innocence in front of that jury.
The verdict was decided in the NYC jury's bigoted mindset before the trial began, as surely as Emmett Till's was, decades before in Mississippi. The bigotry, and disregard for justice, is a completely common element between the two groups.
Both should be regarded as an abhorrence. Instead, you address the New York jury with a "
" It is disgusting.
Posted on 6/30/26 at 7:10 am to RFK
Let me put the this out there for you. I was arrested on her word. I was put in jail. I was treated as 'they' refer to those incarcerated as the animals. Their words, from the courts people. I had been brought to the hearing and was told by the judge if I persisted in arguing it he would pull my public defender and put me back in jail.. I was without counsel and money, the publc defender was all I had .
I pled no contest, paid a twenty five dollar fine and probation. I was told it wold be dropped if I fulfilled the probation. It is still on my record. I did nothing. Thank you for listening.
I pled no contest, paid a twenty five dollar fine and probation. I was told it wold be dropped if I fulfilled the probation. It is still on my record. I did nothing. Thank you for listening.
Posted on 6/30/26 at 7:14 am to RFK
If you have never witnessed such you just do not know. Im sure my friend slo can tell me how it was all justified.
I have friends that are lawyers and judges. There are those in courts that abuse people and the system.
The judge that did this to me is dead and gone but not my record.
That was fifty years ago and Life is still the best thing out there.
I have friends that are lawyers and judges. There are those in courts that abuse people and the system.
The judge that did this to me is dead and gone but not my record.
That was fifty years ago and Life is still the best thing out there.
This post was edited on 6/30/26 at 7:15 am
Posted on 6/30/26 at 7:15 am to RFK
quote:What "other evidence"?
The jury decided this, and the other evidence, cumulatively “proved” the assault
There was no evidence. None!
The jury decided the case before they heard a single word of testimony.
Posted on 6/30/26 at 7:39 am to NC_Tigah
quote:
There was no evidence. None!
That was the point of my personal example NC_Tigah
This post was edited on 6/30/26 at 7:41 am
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