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U.S. House just voted and passed bill on major new gun control laws; with eight Republican
Posted on 3/11/21 at 10:32 am
Posted on 3/11/21 at 10:32 am
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The bill, titled the Bipartisan Background Checks Act of 2021, passed 227-203. It received a handful of Republican votes — eight — and had one Democrat vote against. In 2019, the bill was passed with eight Republican votes, five of whom co-sponsored the package.
What H.R. 8 does and doesn't do
H.R. 8, a clean background checks package meant to enhance reviews of those seeking to acquire firearms, does not create a firearms registry or other federal mechanisms for review.
Instead, the legislation would expand the cases where a background check is required for the sale or transfer of a firearm by requiring checks for private individuals and groups whenever selling or transferring firearms, closing the so-called "Gun Show Loophole." The new requirements would also apply to online sales.
The bill makes it illegal for anyone who is not a licensed firearm importer, manufacturer or dealer to trade or sell firearms to another person; current federal law only requires background checks for licensed gun dealers.
https://news.yahoo.com/house-passes-bill-expanding-background-155441872.html
The bill, titled the Bipartisan Background Checks Act of 2021, passed 227-203. It received a handful of Republican votes — eight — and had one Democrat vote against. In 2019, the bill was passed with eight Republican votes, five of whom co-sponsored the package.
What H.R. 8 does and doesn't do
H.R. 8, a clean background checks package meant to enhance reviews of those seeking to acquire firearms, does not create a firearms registry or other federal mechanisms for review.
Instead, the legislation would expand the cases where a background check is required for the sale or transfer of a firearm by requiring checks for private individuals and groups whenever selling or transferring firearms, closing the so-called "Gun Show Loophole." The new requirements would also apply to online sales.
The bill makes it illegal for anyone who is not a licensed firearm importer, manufacturer or dealer to trade or sell firearms to another person; current federal law only requires background checks for licensed gun dealers.
https://news.yahoo.com/house-passes-bill-expanding-background-155441872.html
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Posted on 3/11/21 at 10:35 am to Ailsa
So no person-to-person sales? How would they know?
This post was edited on 3/11/21 at 10:36 am
Posted on 3/11/21 at 10:36 am to Ailsa
Just spitballing here but if there’s still no registry (and God forbid there ever being one) what’s to stop a transfer between private individuals?
Posted on 3/11/21 at 10:37 am to Ailsa
There is no gun show loophole.
Posted on 3/11/21 at 10:37 am to Ailsa
I'm going to need a list of the traitors
Posted on 3/11/21 at 10:38 am to Ailsa
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The bill makes it illegal for anyone who is not a licensed firearm importer, manufacturer or dealer to trade or sell firearms to another person; current federal law only requires background checks for licensed gun dealers.
Government wants their cut of all these sales. This is basically just a new tax.
Posted on 3/11/21 at 10:38 am to The Melt
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Melt
So no person-to-person sales? How would they know?
Exactly it isn’t like they give you a title in your name for a firearm... no way to enforce as there isn’t a chain of custody after initial purchase
Posted on 3/11/21 at 10:38 am to FlySaint
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what’s to stop a transfer between private individuals?
There isn’t anything to stop it. Like all other gun legislation, this is virtue signaling.
Criminals will still break the law and continue to shoot people no matter what law is passed.
Posted on 3/11/21 at 10:38 am to Ailsa
Catshitty will be a yes in the Senate.
Posted on 3/11/21 at 10:39 am to The Melt
I loaned my cousin a Colt Python. He was thankful, and loaned me $475
Posted on 3/11/21 at 10:41 am to Ailsa
A totally pointless law
Posted on 3/11/21 at 10:42 am to Ailsa
There are millions of firearms in existence many that have already been sold person to person with no sales records, unless the ATF or some other law enforcement agency catches you in the act, this is almost unenforceable do nothing legislation.
Posted on 3/11/21 at 10:44 am to Ailsa
My father passed away a few years ago. He collected firearms to represent every firing mechanism in history, so basically an antique collection. He didn't name me specifically in his will to obtain the collection, but made his wishes known before passing. They are in my possession, but we never officially transferred them into my name. They are technically in my step-mothers name being that she was sole the beneficiary of his will.
How would this bill affect people in my situation? Would we not be allowed to transfer the guns over?
How would this bill affect people in my situation? Would we not be allowed to transfer the guns over?
Posted on 3/11/21 at 10:45 am to Ailsa
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does not create a firearms registry or other federal mechanisms for review.
Instead, the legislation would expand the cases where a background check is required for the sale or transfer of a firearm by requiring checks for private individuals and groups whenever selling or transferring firearms,
I'm guessing the brain trust at Yahoo News doesn't see the contradiction there.
You can bet your arse the authors of the bill see it, and step 2 will be to make it possible to enforce it by creating a registry.
Posted on 3/11/21 at 10:45 am to FightinTigersDammit
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There is no gun show loophole.
Or online loophole. I've bought plenty of guns online. They all get shipped to a FFL and you still have to do the 4473 and background check. It's just another bogeyman to scare the Karens who actually think you can get a machine gun shipped to your door from Amazon.
Posted on 3/11/21 at 10:46 am to Ailsa
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The bill could face opposition from Senate Republicans or conservative Democrats who do not support more restrictions on guns.
Posted on 3/11/21 at 10:46 am to Ailsa
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the legislation would expand the cases where a background check is required for the sale or transfer of a firearm by requiring checks for private individuals and groups whenever selling or transferring firearms, closing the so-called "Gun Show Loophole."
I am a conservative and have zero problem with that.
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The new requirements would also apply to online sales.
Again, no problem with that.
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The bill makes it illegal for anyone who is not a licensed firearm importer, manufacturer or dealer to trade or sell firearms to another person
Now that I am uneasy about. There should be a legal way for a private citizen to sell a gun to another private citizen. Make it to where they must process the act of sale at a licensed gun dealer so the dealer could process the background check for a small fee. Of course, many would skip that and still do it anyway but at least there'd be a legal path of doing so and if the law states that's the way it has to be done, then if the person buying the gun commits a crime with the gun then the person who sold it to them (if that can be traced) should have to pay a penalty for skipping the background check. Best of both worlds, but don't prohibit a citizen from being able to sell his/her gun.
Posted on 3/11/21 at 10:47 am to Ailsa
So this is basically a registry on all new gun sales. They will track the serial number to the background check.
Posted on 3/11/21 at 10:47 am to Seeker
They are not in her name most likely as she didnt purchase them. Bring them home enjoy the memories of your father every time you look at them.
Posted on 3/11/21 at 10:48 am to The Melt
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So no person-to-person sales? How would they know?
after they make you register all your guns they will know, in theory
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