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Posted on 3/11/21 at 12:32 pm to Ailsa
So if I want to leave my Guns to my child upon death, a background check would be required before the estate can transfer ownership? Or if I wanted to give them to them while I was alive?
Posted on 3/11/21 at 12:33 pm to TDsngumbo
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I am a conservative and have zero problem with that.
-TDsngumbo
Your post history doesn't seem very conservative
Posted on 3/11/21 at 12:34 pm to OccamsStubble
quote:Only $475? Those were generous loan terms.
I loaned my cousin a Colt Python. He was thankful, and loaned me $475
Posted on 3/11/21 at 12:34 pm to Ailsa
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U.S. House just voted and passed bill on major new gun control laws; with eight Republican
And so it begins
Posted on 3/11/21 at 12:47 pm to JColtF
quote:100% correct. Well, honestly it's already begun. Plenty of states have mandatory firearm registries.
And so it begins
Or, maybe it's already over. Maybe it ended as soon as the push began when, to curb shootings, the government (including cuck RINOs) decided to make things more difficult not for those doing the shooting but for the honest, hardworking, upstanding citizens.
This bill will do nothing to prevent the scads of shootings in Chicago, NYC, LA, NOLA, Detroit, etc. It'll only be a way to get non-criminals to put more money into government coffers and to slowly, but surely, turn us into criminals.
Posted on 3/11/21 at 12:51 pm to FlySaint
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Just spitballing here but if there’s still no registry (and God forbid there ever being one) what’s to stop a transfer between private individuals?
That is probably what will be pushed next.
Posted on 3/11/21 at 12:54 pm to Ailsa
Here are the Republican members that voted in favor of the bill:
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Rep. Vern Buchanan (Fla.)
Rep. Brian Fitzpatrick (Pa.)
Rep. Andrew Garbarino (N.Y.)
Rep. Carlos Gimenez (Fla.)
Rep. Adam Kinzinger (Ill.)
Rep. Maria Salazar (Fla.)
Rep. Chris Smith (N.J.)
Rep. Fred Upton (Mich.)
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Rep. Vern Buchanan (Fla.)
Rep. Brian Fitzpatrick (Pa.)
Rep. Andrew Garbarino (N.Y.)
Rep. Carlos Gimenez (Fla.)
Rep. Adam Kinzinger (Ill.)
Rep. Maria Salazar (Fla.)
Rep. Chris Smith (N.J.)
Rep. Fred Upton (Mich.)
Posted on 3/11/21 at 12:59 pm to OccamsStubble
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I loaned my cousin a Colt Python. He was thankful, and loaned me $475
Get that thing back and loan it to me for triple that amount...
Posted on 3/11/21 at 12:59 pm to Strannix
Nope. You can't even gift a handgun to a friend or relative in another state without going through a FFL...if you're going to be legal about it. If you had to defend yourself with a handgun obtained by purchase or gift from anyone out of state, you better have it done through a FFL dealer. It sucks.
Posted on 3/11/21 at 12:59 pm to Jbird
Kinzinger and Upton are already on the shite list.
Posted on 3/11/21 at 1:20 pm to Ailsa
This is genius timing given the unprecedented spike in firearm homicides in 2020. This bill is unenforceable and will do absolutely nothing to curb gun violence, but by passing the bill at a time of peak firearm homicides they'll get to attribute the natural decline to follow as a direct result of this garbage.
Posted on 3/11/21 at 1:24 pm to OccamsStubble
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I loaned my cousin a Colt Python. He was thankful, and loaned me $475
475? In recent months? I’ve never told you this but there’s some kin between us. Got anything else you want to loan?
Posted on 3/11/21 at 1:52 pm to BFIV
You buy a gun from dealer, that is in his books. So there is a record of you owning it. That record can be accessed by the ATF anytime. When that dealer closes shop or is tired of being an FFL, those records go to the ATF.
So if this becomes law are you willing to risk selling that gun to a friend or stranger and have it show up in a crime scene?
This kind of privacy invasion is unacceptable. Criminals won't be following this law. This does nothing to stop gun violence. It is a means to have a record of every sale and we pay transfer fees.
So if this becomes law are you willing to risk selling that gun to a friend or stranger and have it show up in a crime scene?
This kind of privacy invasion is unacceptable. Criminals won't be following this law. This does nothing to stop gun violence. It is a means to have a record of every sale and we pay transfer fees.
Posted on 3/11/21 at 1:52 pm to BFIV
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They would not know until the gun's serial number was traced for any number of reasons. You could be stopped for a traffic violation with your handgun in the car or on your person. Then the number is traced and found to be registered to your son-in-law, who lives in another state. Yeah, you bought it from him in a private sale, but didn't get ownership transferred through a FFL dealer. You are then, both, in violation of current federal law. You borrowed the gun from your out of state son-in-law. It is registered to him, in another state, but it is in your possession. Both of you are now in violation of current federal law. Date of purchase of the gun, which is on file in the records, would prove that you did not follow existing law when you and your son-in-law made a friendly, innocent family purchase and sale. Now...if you and your son-in-law both live in the same state, current federal law would make this purchase and sale completely legal, provided that the buyer/borrower was not precluded from having a handgun for any number of reasons. How many of us have bought and sold in either or both of these scenarios? This law sucks.
This my happen with a firearm purchased under the proposed legislation, but from any firearm purchased prior to this tracing a serial number requires so much time and effort it is only done for serious crimes, and is often stops with a dead end because the firearm changed ownership several times with not sales record since they are not required. Just one of several reason all but one of my firearms were purchased used from individuals.
Posted on 3/11/21 at 2:03 pm to bayoudude
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Exactly it isn’t like they give you a title in your name for a firearm... no way to enforce as there isn’t a chain of custody after initial purchase
They'll enforce it as follows:
Buy gun from dealer
Sell gun to someone else
Gun changes hands and eventually gets picked up by cops
Cops run ATF trace and find you listed as original purchaser
Cops come arrest you
Posted on 3/11/21 at 2:06 pm to Huey Lewis
All my guns identify as slingshots.
Posted on 3/11/21 at 2:06 pm to Ailsa
Does the government conduct background checks before selling firearms to rebels/proxies in foreign countries?
No? Then f them and their gun control laws
No? Then f them and their gun control laws
Posted on 3/11/21 at 2:09 pm to The Melt
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So no person-to-person sales? How would they know?
Goodbye gun sales. Hello free gun exchange with delivery fee.
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