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Posted on 11/5/25 at 5:55 pm to Y.A. Tittle
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Even with its flawed machinations, that link isn't saying what you said.
Sure
Posted on 11/5/25 at 5:55 pm to theballguy
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So that is a hard thing to figure out.
which is why they didn't try to quantify it to the point of bounding it by the words of the day.
It would be impossible - it was strictly up to each generation to hand down their belief of honor and responsibility to their descendants.
For the past half century we have utterly failed in that obligation to those who gave us so much.
It's been a good run - I weep for the world my great-grandsons will have to survive in.
Posted on 11/5/25 at 5:57 pm to Bass Tiger
With sufficient majorities, the Constitution allows for virtually anything, but we Americans have always been a fractious lot. What you cite as a flaw may be a feature. Presumably the Marxists and so forth you profess concern over are themselves troubled to live in Trump’s second term. Hand wringing and pearl clutching on the right may be even more unseemly than when practiced by the left.
This post was edited on 11/5/25 at 9:24 pm
Posted on 11/5/25 at 6:04 pm to westerntigerfan
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Those who are currently filing lawsuits to end Trump's tariffs are not rooted in critical businesses being harmed by tariffs, it's leftist organizations who understand the fundamental transformation of America fails if the US is not part of the NWO.
Absolutely untrue, the Liberty Justice Center is the organization that brought the lawsuit that is currently being argued at the Supreme Court. All it takes is a little research to see that this is BS.
Oh I know, LJC claims it's libertarian but at the same time they 100% believe in unfettered "free trade" as the US and the American people gets fricked over and over, time and time again on most economic trade deals. All Trump is trying to do is arrive at some semblance of unfettered free trade to the degree it can be achieved.
BTW, who is LJC representing in one of their lawsuits? A small business named Simplified that imports its materials from China.
This post was edited on 11/5/25 at 6:07 pm
Posted on 11/5/25 at 6:11 pm to Bass Tiger
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Ive been shocked and very disheartened over the past 20 years over how many Americans want to be taken care of
This country was founded by brave, virtuous people. Freeloaders and lazy people stayed in England. It eventually became a land of opportunity and it attracted risk takers and visionaries. We got the best and boldest.....now we get only the opportunistic, lazy and criminal of other counties
Posted on 11/5/25 at 6:17 pm to scottydoesntknow
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Ive been shocked and very disheartened over the past 20 years over how many Americans want to be taken care of
This country was founded by brave, virtuous people. Freeloaders and lazy people stayed in England. It eventually became a land of opportunity and it attracted risk takers and visionaries. We got the best and boldest.....now we get only the opportunistic, lazy and criminal of other counties
I'm afraid you are correct.
Posted on 11/5/25 at 6:17 pm to Bass Tiger
Nothing wrong with the Constitution. Just repeal the 16th and 19th amendments. Everything else would fix itself.
Posted on 11/5/25 at 6:18 pm to SmackoverHawg
As said correctly above use the 1st and 2nd better than your opponents. It's what they are for. Sometimes people must engage in protecting what they believe in and not just watch or walk on by.
Posted on 11/5/25 at 6:31 pm to Bass Tiger
The second amendment is the switch plus it is hard to amend. The real problem is judges twisting it.
Posted on 11/5/25 at 6:38 pm to Bass Tiger
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Ive been shocked and very disheartened over the past 20 years over how many Americans want to be taken care of by a bloated debt fueled federal government based in socialism that will eventually collapse due to an unproductive citizenry and pure laziness.
Good, but 20 years? I started voting in 1980 and it was already like that.
Posted on 11/5/25 at 6:42 pm to Bass Tiger
Cities voting in communism is a State issue
The 10th amendment is the States way of telling the Fed to frick off
The 10th amendment is the States way of telling the Fed to frick off
Posted on 11/5/25 at 6:52 pm to Bass Tiger
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If the socialists/marxists/communists understand constitutional law and have the resources and lawyers to dismantle the constitution and subsequently morph the US into socialism/marxism/communism there's literally nothing that can stop them
...if you get the reference, you'll get what I'm saying.
There are always alternative ways to protect and preserve freedom. If the pinkos create drastic problems, they'll have to be met in return with drastic solutions. I definitely consider any attempt to completely rewrite and/or replace the Constitution, "drastic".
Posted on 11/5/25 at 7:14 pm to Bass Tiger
I found your problem, right here:
You're an ideologue.
How about this, we run the government, not according to some theoretical ideology, by by compromise as the founding fathers intended.
I remember a time when being called an ideologue was considered an insult. You seem to want to embrace it.
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If you had your vision of a prosperous and strong USA what ideology should we pursue?
You're an ideologue.
How about this, we run the government, not according to some theoretical ideology, by by compromise as the founding fathers intended.
I remember a time when being called an ideologue was considered an insult. You seem to want to embrace it.
Posted on 11/5/25 at 7:19 pm to RelentlessAnalysis
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"But ... but ... but ... we ARE the Good Guys! The other guys are evil degenerate subhuman scum!"
And never stop to think that using that sort of language to describe our fellow Americans MIGHT just be a good indicator that the speaker is not quite as vituous as he believes himself to be.
Well, one side mutilates confused kids and holds abortion as its most sacred belief. Unless you are really into trannies and killing the unborn, it's not hard to discern who is bad and who is good when objectively looking at what each side supports.
Posted on 11/5/25 at 7:22 pm to Harry Boutte
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I found your problem, right here:
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If you had your vision of a prosperous and strong USA what ideology should we pursue?
You're an ideologue.
How about this, we run the government, not according to some theoretical ideology, by by compromise as the founding fathers intended.
I remember a time when being called an ideologue was considered an insult. You seem to want to embrace it.
You're either naïve or disingenuous. There will always be a predominant ideology throughout the federal government and every major institution.....depending on who is in control, that's not changing.
Posted on 11/5/25 at 7:27 pm to The_Duke
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One could argue that staying put and not evolving with the times will lead to a country's failure.
I think this discussion should prove that we need both parties. One to push us forward and the other to slow it down and hold steady a bit.
There are no good guys or bad guys. Just a different perspective on what's best
Evolving by allowing 3rd world immigrants take over the entire country like in Europe? I swear to God you leftists are beyond fricking retarded. The whole ideology is a speed run to destroying white western civilization. No one attempting to destroy or “transform” our nation is good
This post was edited on 11/5/25 at 7:31 pm
Posted on 11/5/25 at 7:32 pm to Powerman
They don't. It can be a matter of in old school terms "what are you reading".
Posted on 11/5/25 at 7:45 pm to Wtodd
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Read the Declaration of Independence; it's there.
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That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, --That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.
Posted on 11/5/25 at 8:13 pm to Bass Tiger
While the Fathers baked the realities of human nature into the Constitution, it (and any polity designed to protect liberty) depends on a political culture that ultimately values liberty and values and is willing and desires to do the things that foster and preserve liberty (and abstain from the things that will inevitably kill it).
There is no magic bullet. The Constitution—no constitution—will work when political culture reaches a certain anti-freedom tipping point.
There is no magic bullet. The Constitution—no constitution—will work when political culture reaches a certain anti-freedom tipping point.
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