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re: Ukrainian Army In Complete Disarray. Putin routing them.
Posted on 3/12/24 at 9:30 pm to lake chuck fan
Posted on 3/12/24 at 9:30 pm to lake chuck fan
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Always was going to end that way.
True, but now there are many more millionaires than before.
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Posted on 3/12/24 at 9:34 pm to Catchfalaya
Russia will not lose this war. They think losing is not an option. Doesn't matter who gets in.
Posted on 3/12/24 at 9:35 pm to thebigmuffaletta
Yeah, seriously, frick this noise.
Tell Zelensky the criminal, rights abuser & professional grifter the jig is up. Inform we are withdrawing our support, and that they must sue for peace, surrendering what's been lost.
Unfortunately, our President seems far more concerned about the territorial integrity of Ukraine, Hamas/Gaza (same thing in my view) and Haiti than our own country and potentially best ally, Israel.
Disgracio.
Tell Zelensky the criminal, rights abuser & professional grifter the jig is up. Inform we are withdrawing our support, and that they must sue for peace, surrendering what's been lost.
Unfortunately, our President seems far more concerned about the territorial integrity of Ukraine, Hamas/Gaza (same thing in my view) and Haiti than our own country and potentially best ally, Israel.
Disgracio.
Posted on 3/12/24 at 9:40 pm to Catchfalaya
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There are three options left on the table, and the timeline for them to be chosen is less than 60 days.
1. NATO Joins
2. Ukraine Surrenders
3. Russia takes what they want.
You want option 2 or 3.
If NATO enters, this world will rapidly be thrown into utter chaos. USA/NATO started this whole shite to begin with by poking the bear for decades.
Posted on 3/12/24 at 9:41 pm to Catchfalaya
quote:you realize that's really not very much unless you are in wwi, and mostly that's because past avdivka the terrain to the west is not very defensible until the next line at Berdychi, Orlivka and Tonen'ke so most of that was surrendered without a fight.
approximately 1000 yards of territory a day
quote:lol, masterfully lost 400k of his own troops, around 15000k vehicles that can be confirmed with imagery, including at least 2 of the 7 operational awacs planes in their entire air force and 1/4 of their black sea fleet. All that to gain marginally more than they already controlled through their proxies before the war ever started. Yeah, putin is sun tsu, Napoleon, Hannibal, Scipio Africanus, Belisarius, and Alexander all wrapped up in one. And his plan to stop the spread of NATO on his border by getting several long neutral countries to join NATO is sheer brilliance.
Putin has masterfully outlasted Ukraine by depleting them of troops, and western ammunition.
Posted on 3/12/24 at 9:53 pm to teke184
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Pretty much, but the idea was to make Russia pay for the ground they took such as by sinking their Black Sea fleet.
American tax payers paid too.
Posted on 3/12/24 at 9:54 pm to narddogg81
When does your OT Infantry Battalion ship out? Let us all know so that we can be there to give you a proper send off. Hero.
Posted on 3/12/24 at 9:56 pm to Dirk Dawgler
quote:what an insane comment
When does your OT Infantry Battalion ship out? Let us all know so that we can be there to give you a proper send off. Hero.
Posted on 3/12/24 at 10:02 pm to Hondo Blacksheep
The Putin circle jerk has reached new lows or heights depending on how weird you are
Posted on 3/12/24 at 10:02 pm to Pikes Peak Tiger
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Looks like we need to give them a few more billion of our tax dollars.
The only sort of aid Ukraine should get from the U. S. and Europe is all of our male military age "immigrants".
Posted on 3/12/24 at 10:03 pm to lake chuck fan
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Always was going to end that way
It was always a war of attrition and Ukraine never had the numbers in their favor for that type of war.
Posted on 3/12/24 at 10:33 pm to elposter
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You are laying the praise on a little thick aren’t you? It’s Russia versus fricking Ukraine. Lol.
Ukraine funded and armed by about 30 fricking countries. Ukraine also had over 400,000 soldiers with combat experience before the invasion.
Posted on 3/12/24 at 10:36 pm to Pikes Peak Tiger
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Welp. Looks like we need to give them a few more billion of our tax dollars
As soon as Ukraine surrenders (and they will), the DC swamp will be ready to send them billions to "rebuild", of which 40% or more will flow back to the swamp creatures.
Posted on 3/12/24 at 10:41 pm to tndawg
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The only sort of aid Ukraine should get from the U. S. and Europe is all of our male military age "immigrants".
That’s a great idea instead of flying them to Martha’s Vineyard fly them to Kiev
Posted on 3/12/24 at 10:44 pm to goatmilker
quote:People keep saying that, but I don't think folks were looking at numbers.
Nothing has been masterful. It was to have been over 18 months ago.
This was from 2018, listing Ukraine as the 10th most powerful European military
quote:LINK
Total population: 44,033,874
Total military personnel: 1,182,000
Total aircraft strength: 240
Fighter aircraft: 39
Combat tanks: 2,214
Total naval assets: 25
Defense budget: $4.88 billion
A couple numbers jump out: over 1 million military personnel, over 2200 tanks.
They were part of the USSR until say 1990, so a lot of that would be Soviet gear comparable to what the Russians have.
And the Russians went in somewhat methodically, not doing the blitz tactics the US does.
This was always going to be a grind, where the Russians win with superior numbers. Ukraine also doing "Soviet" defensive tactics, trying to bleed them into reconsidering. And now with NATO donating gear, to see how well things work against the Russians.
Anyone expecting Ukraine to collapse like Iraq was dreaming.
Posted on 3/12/24 at 11:24 pm to Catchfalaya
Wait you mean the country with 140 milllion people is beating the country with 40 million people?
Posted on 3/12/24 at 11:53 pm to Rebel
Don't forget Reddit.
Posted on 3/13/24 at 12:10 am to goatmilker
quote:Be that as it may, he masterfully milked the American taxpayer out of billions of dollars, courtesy of our public "servants," and for that you shall have no rebuttal, for a fact cannot be negated.
Nothing has been masterful.
Posted on 3/13/24 at 12:17 am to deltaland
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We cannot allow Putin to win
How will everyday American lives be impacted by certain parts of Ukraine being under Russian government?
Posted on 3/13/24 at 12:51 am to Catchfalaya
Did you hear that Putin just fired his no. 1 navy guy? You know, because he didn't lose a shite ton of ships.
But yeah.....Putin!!!!!
But yeah.....Putin!!!!!
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