re: Tulsa Massacre - why didn't we know? Why weren't we taught?

Don't give a shite. It happened over 100 years ago.

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Because history is not taught with an eye toward teaching social justice lessons to one group or another. We have a shared history and this event, to me, is not more important than what happened to the Japanese during WWII, for instance. It's not more important than any of the numerous massacres and broken treaties with Native Americans. To me, it's more important, as a people, that we understand how Black Wall Street came to be and why black enterprise seems to be on the decline 100 years later.

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When I read up on this event I realized 2 things. 1) It was a terrible thing. 2) I agree with your last sentence. It is my understanding that African Americans were making good strides (under the circumstances) until Johnson's Great Society (socialism) ruined the black families, their education and thus work ethic.

It was almost like it was done on purpose.

I saw the front page of the Tulsa Tribune that was published on PT in another thread and the picture of the burned out blocks were, to me, the proof that it was a real tragedy that occurred. Like all history it should never be covered up but learned from.

The Black Wall Street was in more than just Tulsa. It was in other cities across the country. All of America should be proud of what they accomplished for themselves.

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If there were indeed 300 killed as is claimed it seems there would be entire sections of cemeteries filled with those killed and a readily found list of names. Where can I find that list?

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It doesn't exist.

The state did an exhaustive study 20 years ago and found 39 deaths attributed to the riot.

26 blacks and 13 whites.

In my 11th grade history class, in a tiny town of 900 people in the beating heart of central Oklahoma, we learned about it.

Funny thing is, I was in that class with two guys I work with frequently, and neither of them remember it but I do very clearly.

Black coworker friend also claims he learned about it in school, but said he never mentioned it because it's "too painful" until, conveniently, MSDNC started blasting Trump's Tulsa rally. Then he was suddenly an expert on all the facts... well, all the ones MSDNC told him.

My take? His predominantly black school in a town of 4000 didn't teach them about it at all. My predominantly white school in a town of 900 taught us all about it but people were apparently sleeping through the lecture.

Were you taught about the Bonus Army and their march on Washington DC? Were you taught that Pres Hoover and Gen MacArthur rolled tanks through DC to get rid of them Killed at least two and shot several others ?


Were you taught that the largest mass lunching in the US occurred in New Orleans. Were taught that the people lynched during it were not black, but Sicilian immigrants ?


You were not taught these things bc world history is made up of haves and have nots. It’s human suffering in all forms caused by many things , which is often a majority in power. The difference is that some groups would have you believe that they are the only ones to suffer or that their suffering was worse for some reason. That’s the difference. You don’t see Chinese, Latin Americans , SE Asians, Middle Easterners , Pakis, Indians (dot not feather) complaining. You don’t hear Irish, Italian,Slav, Jewish descendants of immigrants asking for anything bc their ancestors were treated like shite, discriminated against, murdered and otherwise used as almost slave labor. You don’t see it bc the majority of those groups got up and worked their arse off everyday to make something of themselves and be part of America. Being American was a privilege to them. They wanted to make their lives, communities, and America better.

10 white men lay dead or dying along with 2 dead black men in the first barrage at the courthouse

Back then, and maybe even now, if that happened, things were going to go South.

The girl ultimately said he grabbed her arm. She did not want to press charges apparently.

Not sure the entire truth exists any longer making this just another political tool.

I knew nothing of it until I watched Watchmen series on HBO. Still don't know much more than what was portrayed in that fictional show.

I started a thread once on The Democrats Opelousas Massacre of 1868 and everybody yawned. History bores the peeps unless it can be used as Leftist Agitprop and then very suddenly everybody pretends to be a scholar.

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Years ago. It is basically as represented. White woman claimed she was "assaulted" by a Black man. She wasn't. The man was arrested. A White mob set-out to lynch him. Blacks gathered to prevent mob access to the jail. They were armed.

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The way I've read it was that the group of black men offered protection services to the sheriff, and he said there would be no lynching, the kicker to this is the reason they were worried is because a white man had been lynched a few years earlier ( at least it was an equal oppurtunity mob) I've never seen anything that sounded like a lynching was imminent though.