re: Tucker went hard after Ben Shapiro and Mark Levin last night

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Even calling for an evaluation of our relationship with Israel gets you called a “Jew Hater”

It’s a phrase that is wielded as a weapon.

It’s a term that has become meaningless, like “racist” or “islamaphobe”

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It really depends on whom is saying it.

The Left hates Israel, and Jews, because they stupidily believe that Paestine actually had some autonomous government / land position in that region because they were taught that.
That of course is 1000% false.
Palestine has laid the same claim against part of Egypt and even asked Egypt for "their" land only to be told to GTFOH. And, they don't bomb and slaughter Egyptians. I think we know why.

I really believe it comes down to your stated opposition. I can understand people not wanting Israel to receive US money. When it goes byond that is when it comes under question.

Simply believing $$ support shouldn't happen should not let you slide down the hill of becoming antisematic towards the issue.

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Please cite his videos of his own words and then tell us what he was wrong on.

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Charlie Kirk was protestant dispensationalist. Here are some things he has claimed on the subject:

“God has an unfolding plan for the end times, with Israel at the center.”

“I’m very pro-Israel, I’m an evangelical Christian… Dispensational theology reminds us that God’s promises to the Jewish people are eternal and unfolding before our eyes.”

“We have an obligation to the Jewish people… Blessings come to those who bless Israel, as Scripture teaches.”

Dispensationalism is wrong. Here are some Bible verses to prove this:

Romans 9:6-8 “Not as though the word of God hath taken none effect. For they are not all Israel, which are of Israel: Neither, because they are the seed of Abraham, are they all children: but, In Isaac shall thy seed be called. That is, They which are the children of the flesh, these are not the children of God: but the children of the promise are counted for the seed.”

Galatians 3:28-29 “There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus. And if ye be Christ’s, then are ye Abraham’s seed, and heirs according to the promise.”

Galatians 3:16 “Now to Abraham and his seed were the promises made. He saith not, And to seeds, as of many; but as of one, And to thy seed, which is Christ.”

the good news is eventually all these people end up doing something so stupid, that they'll end their careers or at least what they thought they had of a career the list of has been influencers is legion, going back to morton downy jr.



does this look like a guy committing career suicide on live TV? yet that's what he was doing.

First off I agree that Shapiro had been much more substantive in his disagreement with Carlson prior to the interview and never openly called him anti-semetic until that point.

I should've been clear that the anti-semitic vitriol from the pro Israel wing prior to the interview had been largely from the other person I mentioned which is Mark Levin. But post interview Shapiro has been guns blazing in calling Carlson anything and everything you can imagine and calling for censorship under various forms and using various reasons.

This started about a neutral debate over the involvement of the US in the middle east on behalf of Israel. The Fuentes debate triggered the response it did because the pro-Israel lobby didn't and doesn't today think they can win on the points in a debate over the merits of that alliance so they use the rhetorical tools of the left to attempt to subvert logical discourse by using racial politics and censorship.

But you asked for examples of calls for censorship and anti-Semitism, so here you go:

February 4th, 2025: Trump inaugurated and Netanyahu immediately visits to lobby for direct strikes against Iranian nuclear sites
June 13th, 2025: the US and Israel launch strikes against Iran triggering vehement debate on the right related to whether the US should be involved
October 27th, 2025: Tucker Carlson interviews Nick Fuentes

So from a timeline perspective this is what actually happened:
February 4th, 2025 - The debate over wars on behalf of Israel
-Carlson and Kirk begin hearing about a push for a full scale war against Iran and begin vehemently opposing it triggering a war of words between him, Mark Levin and Ben Shapiro
June 5, 2025
"Carlson has become a loathsome arse who is increasingly unhinged and pathetic. Our nation's enemies love him, as do certain vile and weird conspiracy theorists he promotes." - Mark Levin
June 13, 2025
"Chatsworth Qatarlson, having been humiliated and exposed, is spinning out of control. He now turns on Trump, attacks Israel. Totally predictable."
-Mark Levin
August 29, 2025: Levin labels Carlson anti-Israel
"Qatarlson and the rest of the fake MAGA/America last/anti-Israel/isolationist cabal are as nuts as they come."
-Mark Levin
September 26, 2025: Levin calls for TPUSA to isolate Carlson
"Carlson’s bigoted poison. TPUSA must back away from him and his ilk."
-Mark Levin

October 27, 2025 - Carlson/Fuentes Interview
November 3, 2025 - Levin goes nuclear at the jewish GOP convention
November 13, 2025
"Don’t become Tucker Carlson. Not that you would. He just can’t stop his obsession with Jew hatred."
-Mark Levin
November 3, 2025 - Shapiro calls Tucker a groyper
"No to the groypers. No to cowards like Tucker Carlson, who normalize their trash.
-Ben Shapiro
November 8, 2025 Shapiro blames Carlson for Nazism in the GOP
"being normalized within the mainstream Republican party."
-Ben Shapiro
November 8, 2025 - Shapiro defends his calls for cancellation of Tucker
"It is not cancellation to draw moral lines between viewpoints. In fact, we used to call that one of the key aspects of conservatism."
-Ben Shapiro

None of them have any importance to me so I won't listen.

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It is not a "Christian" fight. to think your skin color is supreme

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I never said anything about skin color.

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My question is what happened to Brandon Tatum? I've been following him for years and within the last couple months he's pivoted to this obsession with Israel. Why is that?

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Follow the shekels. All roads always lead to shekels.

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yet people like Levine and Shapiro call him that to discredit his actual views on Israel.

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and no one with a brain should take any of their views in regard to the Middle East as a whole with anything but a grain of salt.

They are Israel first

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Attacking Jewish people because they are Jewish.

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I agree with you on this, but is advocating for “Israel first” policies part of being Jewish?

People generally don’t like other people due to actions, not because they just exist.

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Posted by alt right Nazi Glenn Greenwald

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Just another leftist that tards like you have fallen in love with