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re: Trump tweets about FEMA leaving Puerto Rico
Posted on 10/12/17 at 8:36 am to tigerinDC09
Posted on 10/12/17 at 8:36 am to tigerinDC09
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This is like a best man at a wedding saying that most marriages end in divorce. It's true, but what a tonally insensitive thing to say.
And yet his supporters will now treat it as gospel.
Turn on the news and look at what is happening in Cali-(an actual state unfortunately). This country doesn't have unlimited resources to cover 5 devastating hurricanes, the worst fires in cali in decades. Maybe PR needs to vote to become a state an they'll get more attention.
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Posted on 10/12/17 at 8:37 am to buckeye_vol
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So if I give a $1 but receive $100 in return, I'm automatically prioritized over a person who gives $0 but recieves $0 in return solely because I gave a $1 first
Yes? The pay part is the crucial element.
Posted on 10/12/17 at 8:40 am to tigerinDC09
What do we need Puerto Rico for?
Posted on 10/12/17 at 8:40 am to AuburnTigers
good.
i'm tire of everyone trying to be politically correct. Enough of the bullshite. Say whats on your mind and tell it like it is.
i'm tire of everyone trying to be politically correct. Enough of the bullshite. Say whats on your mind and tell it like it is.
Posted on 10/12/17 at 8:42 am to tigerinDC09
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Trump tweets about FEMA leaving Puerto Rico
FEMA shouldn't even exist, and PR shouldn't be a territory, so I don't give a frick about these tweets.
Posted on 10/12/17 at 8:43 am to tilco
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What do we need Puerto Rico for?
We don't really. They don't have resources to steal. Most of the island is a shite hole. If they ever become a state the Dems will be even harder to beat in national elections.
We need to keep paying them to stay independent.
This post was edited on 10/12/17 at 8:45 am
Posted on 10/12/17 at 8:43 am to tilco
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What do we need Puerto Rico for?
This is a decent debate to have some time in the future. But when it was hit by Maria it was a US territory. We have an obligation to provide disaster recovery, regardless of what we may think about its status as a territory. Using that disaster to further one's argument to remove them as a territory is shameful.
Posted on 10/12/17 at 8:44 am to Loserman
quote:Yet we still control them and they are US citizens. We set up the rules, they don't have a choice.
Because Puerto Rican's don't pay Federal Income Tax.
Posted on 10/12/17 at 8:46 am to mmcgrath
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We set up the rules, they don't have a choice.
A referendum on the political status of Puerto Rico was held in Puerto Rico on June 11, 2017.[1] The referendum had three options: becoming a state of the United States, independence/free association, or maintaining the current territorial status.[2] Those who voted overwhelmingly chose statehood by 97%; turnout, however, was 23%, a historically low figure.[3] This figure is attributed to a boycott led by the pro-status quo PPD party.[4]
Posted on 10/12/17 at 8:48 am to Turbeauxdog
quote:Yes. It's convenient to use the absolute measure, which results in prioritizing 50 entities into the top priority level, and 1 entity into the "not top" priority level. That really makes a big difference from a single group of 51 entities. Right?
He didn't say we're prioritizing based on relative measures, but absolute measures. Stop trying to make that failing point.
But the relative measure prioritizes all 51 entities into 51 distinct levels of priority. But surely this is not being dismissed because it doesn't work to his own advantage, right?
Posted on 10/12/17 at 8:49 am to tigerinDC09
Howard Dean ?@GovHowardDean
What we should do is turn over the rehab of Puerto Rico to the Clinton Foundation. They know what they are doing. You have no clue. LINK …
6:56 AM - Oct 12, 2017
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What we should do is turn over the rehab of Puerto Rico to the Clinton Foundation. They know what they are doing. You have no clue. LINK …
6:56 AM - Oct 12, 2017
73 73 Replies 258 258 Retweets 722 722 likes
Posted on 10/12/17 at 8:51 am to buckeye_vol
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He's right you know.
And a physician discussing the diagnosis and prognosis of a deadly disease with a patient would also be "right" if he said, "well you're not going to live forever anyways."
Or a teacher telling parents of children with severe physical and intellectual disabilities children and their families that "they're probably not going to learn a lot more if I actually teach them than if I play games on my phone. Besides they're probably going to a financial burden on the taxpayer anyways."
Not even fricking remotely close to the same analogy.
It's more like the doctor telling the 400 pound guy who comes into his office, "you know, I'm going to pay for your liposuction this time, but you're still unhealthy as shite and if you don't start taking care of yourself, you're going to have a heart attack". And the teacher telling the parent, "not only did I teach your kid in class, I stayed during my lunch hour to tutor him, and all he wanted to do was play on Snapchat the whole time and not listen. I've been doing this the past few weeks, and he's just not trying. He and you are going to take some personal accountability for his failing."
But you probably knew you came up with shitty analogy anyway, and just like the victim mentality as a fallback.
Posted on 10/12/17 at 8:55 am to Fratigerguy
quote:So the obese person is getting treatment for a condition they are personal responsible for? So PR is responsible for Hurricanes too?
"you know, I'm going to pay for your liposuction this time, but you're still unhealthy as shite and if you don't start taking care of yourself, you're going to have a heart attack"
quote:My analogies may have been terrible, but your analogies don't even make any sense because we're discussing an event outside of anyone's control.
But you probably knew you came up with shitty analogy anyway, and just like the victim mentality as a fallback.
Posted on 10/12/17 at 8:57 am to tigerinDC09
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what a tonally insensitive thing to say.
I think that this aspect of Trump is responsible for most of the hatred of him. It's undeniable that he is "tonally insensitive". I don't like that about him, and I tink he is a moron most of the time. And yet, AND YET, he's still better than the swamp people and Hillary Clinton.
Posted on 10/12/17 at 9:04 am to Stingray
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OP would like to turn PR to our own Greece.
If you mean a bankrupt state then yes...Puerto Rico burned through $75 billion in debt and has another $70 bn in unfunded liabilities for an island of 3 million people,
Posted on 10/12/17 at 9:06 am to tigerinDC09
You think that maybe it was reported to Trimp from FEMA that the PR people are doing nothing, maybe?
As much of a lunatic as he is, his tweets are almost always reactionary
As much of a lunatic as he is, his tweets are almost always reactionary
Posted on 10/12/17 at 9:11 am to buckeye_vol
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So the obese person is getting treatment for a condition they are personal responsible for? So PR is responsible for Hurricanes too?
No. They are responsible for being corrupt, bankrupt, and not maintaining their infrastructure.
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My analogies may have been terrible, but your analogies don't even make any sense because we're discussing an event outside of anyone's control.
No. We are discussing the "duty" of a country to totally rebuild a territory and make them solvent again due to their own negligence and inability to help themselves because they suck at being independent. It is the doctor's responsibility to take care of his patient. Is is the teacher's responsibility to educate her students. It is the US's responsibility to assist our territories. Is is also the responsibility of all of those folks to tell it like it is and make them realize the freebies and gravy train doesn't last forever.
You still live in your parent's basement, don't you?
Posted on 10/12/17 at 9:11 am to Decatur
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Why is Trump treating PR differently than other disaster impacted areas? He's always talking about their debt. Haven't heard him mention anyone else's debt.
B/c he lost his arse on a hotel there and he's still bitter.
The dude is a fricking child and you suckers supporting him need to wake the frick up. He doesn't give a shite about anyone but himself.
This post was edited on 10/12/17 at 9:13 am
Posted on 10/12/17 at 9:13 am to tigerinDC09
I'm glad a grown man's social media activities hurts your feelings, OP.
Posted on 10/12/17 at 9:15 am to Dr RC
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B/c he lost his arse on a hotel there and he's still bitter.
Yeah I kinda figured there was something like this in the equation.
Trump is such a petty little bitch it's no wonder he has been treating PR differently.
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