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Posted on 10/12/17 at 10:06 am to Sentrius
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But if they have no strategic benefit at all or it has some and we're not using it or don't need it, they're just dead weight to the United States of America.
Alabama has no strategic benefit. I say cut them loose.
This was an epically stupid tweet by the president. I guess it will ensure the support of the anti-brown contingent of his base, but any reasonable person sees this as cruel.
Posted on 10/12/17 at 10:07 am to Jorts R Us
Indeed it does. We picked some shitty locations to claim here and there.
Posted on 10/12/17 at 10:08 am to bobby_3_sticks
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Alabama has no strategic benefit. I say cut them loose.
booby3sticks has no strategic benefit. I say cut him/her/they loose.
This post was edited on 10/12/17 at 10:09 am
Posted on 10/12/17 at 10:08 am to bobby_3_sticks
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sees this as cruel.
EpicPosted on 10/12/17 at 10:08 am to roadGator
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deed it does. We picked some shitty locations to claim here and there.
The ratio of benefit vs amount paid is like 3:1 for MS. Granted, PR is close to double that. Are you in favor of kicking MS to the curb?
Posted on 10/12/17 at 10:09 am to Jorts R Us
Sure. Have you seen their beaches?
Posted on 10/12/17 at 10:10 am to buckeye_vol
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Did Baton Rouge residents learn from last year's flood and decided to rebuild destroyed homes away from the flood zones, or did they put them right back where they were hoping it will be another 50-60 years before they might face this situation again?
I have no idea, I don't keep up with BR politics and policies no more than what you keep up with the ones where I live. FTR, I don't have much, if any, sympathy for people that choose to live in harm's way if they have other choices to choose from.
Posted on 10/12/17 at 10:11 am to bamarep
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He's right you know.
He always is.
Posted on 10/12/17 at 10:12 am to GRTiger
quote:Eventually, sure. Just like planning for a transition out of medical care following an amputation. You don't need to say it right when they get out of surgery, when the timeline is variable and the recovery has a long ways to go either way.
I don't think Trump needed to say it, but it needed to be said.
Posted on 10/12/17 at 10:14 am to roadGator
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If they become a state the blue wall grows. That's not something that will change there ever. We will become more socialistic down the road if PR is ever granted statehood.
Then cut them loose.
I'm not implying they SHOULD become a state... I'm saying the current situation is untenable and they need to be a state or no longer have any association with us. FWIW, I'd prefer the latter, not so much because it's a blue state... but because they will suck the treasury dry.
Posted on 10/12/17 at 10:16 am to Jorts R Us
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You might can want to research this further.
Could have been clearer, I meant non-bona-fide residents... my apologies
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United States citizens or resident aliens who are not bona fide residents of Puerto Rico during the entire tax year are required to report all income from whatever source derived on their U.S. income tax return.
Posted on 10/12/17 at 10:17 am to LSUFanHouston
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I'm not implying they SHOULD become a state... I'm saying the current situation is untenable and they need to be a state or no longer have any association with us. FWIW, I'd prefer the latter, not so much because it's a blue state... but because they will suck the treasury dry.
They became a territory over 100 years ago. We aren't cutting them loose, nor should we.
I am fine with them becoming a state (less for for US VI or Guam) but the way it works is they get to decide.
Posted on 10/12/17 at 10:26 am to bobby_3_sticks
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I am fine with them becoming a state (less for for US VI or Guam) but the way it works is they get to decide.
1) Why do you support them becoming a state more than Guam or US VI?
2) Why do you think the process can't change?
Posted on 10/12/17 at 10:28 am to LSUFanHouston
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Why do you support them becoming a state more than Guam or US VI?
Votes and feelings
Posted on 10/12/17 at 10:28 am to bobby_3_sticks
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but the way it works is they get to decide.
Nope.
They already voted to become a state back in June and nobody noticed and Congress told them to frick off.
It's Congress that has to extend the invitation, not the other way around.
Posted on 10/12/17 at 10:29 am to buckeye_vol
I don't see this as immediately after surgery. This is more after the first few rounds of rehab, to maintain the analogy. We've sent a ton of aide, but it continues to be seen as not enough. An exit strategy is not unwarranted.
It's also hard to continue to justify more when reports of PR leadership withholding supplies keep coming out, all the while they blast the US government for not doing enough.
It's also hard to continue to justify more when reports of PR leadership withholding supplies keep coming out, all the while they blast the US government for not doing enough.
Posted on 10/12/17 at 10:29 am to LSUFanHouston
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1) Why do you support them becoming a state more than Guam or US VI?
strictly due to population. Puerto rico has about as many people as iowa, where as Guam/ US VI have less than 200k each.
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2) Why do you think the process can't change?
The process can absolutely change. But this congress isn't going to change it. Now I can see PR citizens wanting to be a state after this disaster, and thus voting for it.
Posted on 10/12/17 at 10:33 am to bobby_3_sticks
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Now I can see PR citizens wanting to be a state after this disaster, and thus voting for it.
They already did vote to become a state back in June by a landslide and it didn't mean shite and another vote won't mean shite too.
Congress controls statehood and who gets that invitation to the union, not the other way around.
Posted on 10/12/17 at 10:36 am to LSUFanHouston
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Could have been clearer, I meant non-bona-fide residents... my apologies
Oh shite. I didn't realize it was you. I get a little carried away on the poli board sometimes. No apologies needed. I should apologize for being a dick. You're like a Tax god in my eyes.
This post was edited on 10/12/17 at 10:37 am
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