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re: Trump tweets about FEMA leaving Puerto Rico

Posted on 10/12/17 at 8:14 am to
Posted by ladyluckUGA
Member since Feb 2014
6365 posts
Posted on 10/12/17 at 8:14 am to
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This is like a best man at a wedding saying that most marriages end in divorce



my tax dollars don't pay for someone's wedding. try an analogy that actually, well, analogizes.

Posted by buckeye_vol
Member since Jul 2014
35236 posts
Posted on 10/12/17 at 8:14 am to
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Well, those people pay federal income taxes and PRs don't so I can't help you in the department of "who deserves to be taken care of first" - if we're having to rank priorities here.
So California is now a far higher priority, by your standards, than Lousiana. Just want to put that on the record.
Posted by The Spleen
Member since Dec 2010
38865 posts
Posted on 10/12/17 at 8:15 am to
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Why is Trump treating PR differently than other disaster impacted areas?



Because he's been criticized for the slow federal response to PR. The mayor of San Juan constantly calling him out on TV doesn't help. Trump's MO is to go on the attack whenever he is attacked. The fact that he is absolutely no shame, coupled with his inability to express basic human compassion make it easy for him. The decent, honest conservatives don't call him out on it is disgusting.

The debt thing is his cover. He just wants to punish PR for the way he's been attacked.
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
139972 posts
Posted on 10/12/17 at 8:15 am to
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South Florida?


Yep. And North Florida and Central Florida.

FEMA didn't stay forever. They gone.
Posted by Jbird
In Bidenville with EthanL
Member since Oct 2012
73430 posts
Posted on 10/12/17 at 8:15 am to
quote:


From what I can tell is asking to be treated equally as everyone else


quote:

Their situation seems more serious though.
Compounded by decades of corrupt Democratic leadership.
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
126962 posts
Posted on 10/12/17 at 8:17 am to
Posted by Decatur
Member since Mar 2007
28719 posts
Posted on 10/12/17 at 8:17 am to
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Well, those people pay federal income taxes and PRs don't so I can't help you in the department of "who deserves to be taken care of first" - if we're having to rank priorities here.


Fed gov has the same obligations to PR for disaster recovery as it does any state. There's no curve applied based on anyone's financial condition.
Posted by Homesick Tiger
Greenbrier, AR
Member since Nov 2006
54206 posts
Posted on 10/12/17 at 8:18 am to
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So California is now a far higher priority, by your standards, than Lousiana. Just want to put that on the record.


Comprehension is not your forte I see. Both CA and LA residents pay federal income taxes. PRs don't. Why is that if they expect the same treatment as states that do?
Posted by Decatur
Member since Mar 2007
28719 posts
Posted on 10/12/17 at 8:20 am to
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The debt thing is his cover. He just wants to punish PR for the way he's been attacked.


He was emphasizing their debt from the beginning though before anyone had a chance to criticize.

What does Trump have against PR? Did he lose out on a hotel there once or something?
Posted by gthog61
Irving, TX
Member since Nov 2009
71001 posts
Posted on 10/12/17 at 8:24 am to
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It's true.

And yet his supporters will now treat it as gospel.



How DARE we admire someone speaking the truth.
Posted by buckeye_vol
Member since Jul 2014
35236 posts
Posted on 10/12/17 at 8:24 am to
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my tax dollars don't pay for someone's wedding. try an analogy that actually, well, analogizes.
So did you watch Forrest Gump and say, "life can't be like a box of chocolates because a box of chocolates can't be alive?"
This post was edited on 10/12/17 at 8:25 am
Posted by Jbird
In Bidenville with EthanL
Member since Oct 2012
73430 posts
Posted on 10/12/17 at 8:25 am to
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He was emphasizing their debt from the beginning though before anyone had a chance to criticize.

Because the Dems ran that shithole into default, of course Barack the Benevolent wouldn't talk about it.

quote:

Simply put, the bankrupt island can’t pay everything it owes, so creditors are taking aim at each other as they squabble over who will get what’s left. But the debt’s size and the tangled process invented to rescue Puerto Rico mean there’s no established rule book to shape what comes next. Holders of general-obligation debt have declared their right to be paid first, owners of sales-tax bonds are squabbling with one another over who deserves priority, and they’re all up against the commonwealth’s leaders, who want the cash for essential services. Amid this melee, Puerto Rico’s federal overseers will have to choose between paying U.S. hedge funds everything they’re owed or keeping schools, water and electricity running. “There just isn’t enough money,” said Matt Fabian, a partner with Municipal Market Analytics Inc. in Concord, Massachusetts, who foresees a chaotic brew of lawsuits, federal interventions and politics. “Nobody has any idea what’s going to happen.”
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Posted by IceTiger
Really hot place
Member since Oct 2007
26584 posts
Posted on 10/12/17 at 8:26 am to
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So you suggest that they aren't already do so?


It's not a suggestion...its a reality
Posted by Turbeauxdog
Member since Aug 2004
23163 posts
Posted on 10/12/17 at 8:30 am to
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So California is now a far higher priority, by your standards, than Lousiana. Just want to put that on the record


Well first, of course it is, that's how our representative republic works.

Second, he said they don't pay, not they don't pay as much, so your point isn't valid.
Posted by buckeye_vol
Member since Jul 2014
35236 posts
Posted on 10/12/17 at 8:30 am to
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Comprehension is not your forte I see. Both CA and LA residents pay federal income taxes. PRs don't. Why is that if they expect the same treatment as states that do?
But California gives more than it recieves back, and Lousiana recieves more than it gives.

So if we're prioritizing based on income taxes when it is to your advantage, why are you unwilling to prioritize based on income taxes when it is to your disadvantage?
Posted by Loserman
Member since Sep 2007
21858 posts
Posted on 10/12/17 at 8:30 am to
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Why is Trump treating PR differently than other disaster impacted areas? He's always talking about their debt. Haven't heard him mention anyone else's debt.


Because Puerto Rican's don't pay Federal Income Tax.

Us other taxpayers shouldn't have to bail them out!
Posted by Decatur
Member since Mar 2007
28719 posts
Posted on 10/12/17 at 8:33 am to
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Because Puerto Rican's don't pay Federal Income Tax.


They pay taxes to the Fed Gov. Also, the Federal employees there pay income tax.
Posted by Yak
DuPage County
Member since May 2014
4672 posts
Posted on 10/12/17 at 8:34 am to
How long have we been in Afghanistan now? 15-16 years?

Puerto Rico, it's been 3 months, cya
Posted by buckeye_vol
Member since Jul 2014
35236 posts
Posted on 10/12/17 at 8:34 am to
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Well first, of course it is, that's how our representative republic works.

Second, he said they don't pay, not they don't pay as much, so your point isn't valid.
So if I give a $1 but receive $100 in return, I'm automatically prioritized over a person who gives $0 but recieves $0 in return solely because I gave a $1 first? And I'm also given same priority as a person who gives $100 but recieves $1 in return?
This post was edited on 10/12/17 at 8:39 am
Posted by Turbeauxdog
Member since Aug 2004
23163 posts
Posted on 10/12/17 at 8:35 am to
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So if we're prioritizing based on income taxes when it is to your advantage, why are you unwilling to prioritize based on income taxes when it is to your disadvantage?


He didn't say we're prioritizing based on relative measures, but absolute measures. Stop trying to make that failing point.
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