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re: Trump should do the right thing
Posted on 5/9/26 at 11:34 pm to Masterag
Posted on 5/9/26 at 11:34 pm to Masterag
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Dude.... y'all have got to wake up. Stop being so gullible. They don't want you to have liberty! They want to replace it with their own global technocratic system run in digital currency, take away your freedom of speech, and make you and your entire lineage serfs in their digital new world order. You think these people want to give you liberty? When has that happened, like ever in the history of the world?
I agree with you to a point. They want AI to increase surveillance capacity. The American Technate is their ambition. They cannot have this in a global system because the flow of capital requires consumers and a degree of pluralism and meritocracy.
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Posted on 5/9/26 at 11:37 pm to Masterag
Dude we had 2 choices in both elections that Trump won. We had a choice of Clinton and then Joe but ending with Kamala. I can guarantee you none of those people would have gave you the result you want. The sad facts about politics is that no politician will do everything you agree with 100% of the time. Even politicians you like and agree with will make several mistakes while they are in office or take a position and do something you hate.
Me personally I’m kind of miffed at Trump right now myself over the Iran war. People can debate till the cows come home over whether or not we needed to go to war with them. The main thing now is we have and we are there so now we need to do what it takes to win and get an outcome that settles this once and for all so no more American troops has to go back later. Trying to cut a deal with people that have done nothing but lie and cheat will not end this. It’s just another way to play kick the can and hand the problem to the next President and the one after that. All we have done in Iran to this point is reset the clock. We have not solved the problem. I have supported the war from the start but I can also say that if it was worth doing in the first place then it is worth doing right no matter how long it takes. Cutting a deal with these people is not solving the problem. It’s just a different way to hand the problem with Iran to the next guy and the next. I wished Trump would realize this. We are there and we are very close to solving this problem for good. Stopping short by leaving this current regime in charge to pursue some deal that they will never honor after Trump leaves office and our future Presidents will never enforce if they cheat would be a terrible disappointment. Trump as a whole has done very well in both terms considering what the man has been through and the resistance he gets. Not finishing this regime leading Iran off and cutting some worthless deal when we are so close to actually solving this problem with the Iranian regime will be a huge black mark on his Presidency later if Iran rises up to become a threat again. It would be a bigger mistake than Clinton not taking out UBL when he had the chance back in the late 90’s. We are already there. Let’s actually finish off a war right for a change. Something we haven’t done in a very long time.
Me personally I’m kind of miffed at Trump right now myself over the Iran war. People can debate till the cows come home over whether or not we needed to go to war with them. The main thing now is we have and we are there so now we need to do what it takes to win and get an outcome that settles this once and for all so no more American troops has to go back later. Trying to cut a deal with people that have done nothing but lie and cheat will not end this. It’s just another way to play kick the can and hand the problem to the next President and the one after that. All we have done in Iran to this point is reset the clock. We have not solved the problem. I have supported the war from the start but I can also say that if it was worth doing in the first place then it is worth doing right no matter how long it takes. Cutting a deal with these people is not solving the problem. It’s just a different way to hand the problem with Iran to the next guy and the next. I wished Trump would realize this. We are there and we are very close to solving this problem for good. Stopping short by leaving this current regime in charge to pursue some deal that they will never honor after Trump leaves office and our future Presidents will never enforce if they cheat would be a terrible disappointment. Trump as a whole has done very well in both terms considering what the man has been through and the resistance he gets. Not finishing this regime leading Iran off and cutting some worthless deal when we are so close to actually solving this problem with the Iranian regime will be a huge black mark on his Presidency later if Iran rises up to become a threat again. It would be a bigger mistake than Clinton not taking out UBL when he had the chance back in the late 90’s. We are already there. Let’s actually finish off a war right for a change. Something we haven’t done in a very long time.
Posted on 5/9/26 at 11:45 pm to Diego Ricardo
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I agree with you to a point. They want AI to increase surveillance capacity. The American Technate is their ambition. They cannot have this in a global system because the flow of capital requires consumers and a degree of pluralism and meritocracy.
It won't be global right off the bat. But each region will have it's own technate. I've seen estimates of anywhere from 8-10 separate technates all working together. They pretend to be enemies, but they really aren't. It's already begun on some level. If China were truly our enemy, then why do they hold all our debt and make many of our most important medicines? That has never made a lick of sense to me.
The global war on terror, Libya, and now Iran are not about "spreading freedom" or some other bullshite. It's about leverage and lining up the chosen leaders of these technates and drawing new borders.
Posted on 5/9/26 at 11:49 pm to DyeHardDylan
3. X. Trump. Voter. Here.
Posted on 5/9/26 at 11:51 pm to jammajin
Massie conservatives love career politicians 
Posted on 5/9/26 at 11:54 pm to RollingwiththeTide
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I can guarantee you none of those people would have gave you the result you want
I voted for Trump. I can admit when I've been had. He's THE grifter par excellence.
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We are already there. Let’s actually finish off a war right for a change. Something we haven’t done in a very long time.
The thing you're not understanding is that "winning" this war means the American people lose. The middle east is the final piece of the technate puzzle (see above). They want to lock you down like China, and "winning" in Iran gives them the leverage to do it. Because when they take control of Iran, all the world's oil is locked up. Which is why they went after Venezuela. Now all they have to do is engineer another catastrophe, then take even more liberty.
Posted on 5/10/26 at 12:01 am to SelaTiger
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Trump should do the right thing and resign. But he won’t.
Listen to your own advice
Posted on 5/10/26 at 12:04 am to Masterag
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This post was edited on 5/10/26 at 12:09 am
Posted on 5/10/26 at 12:07 am to Masterag
You do realize that the Big Beautiful Bill didn't go into effect until January right?
The bill that has $47 billion for the wall?
The bill that has $47 billion for the wall?
Posted on 5/10/26 at 12:23 am to Masterag
Master ag is a fig that has decided to break the coalition apart. Go to hell commie sympathizer. Quit sewing deceit.
Proverbs 16:28: "A dishonest man spreads strife, and a whisperer separates close friends".
Proverbs 16:28: "A dishonest man spreads strife, and a whisperer separates close friends".
Posted on 5/10/26 at 2:13 am to Masterag
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fewer deportations than Obama
Anyone who repeats this proven lie is just showing how easily they can be manipulated. Once you guys decide to hate Trump, you pick up all the leftist talking points.
Posted on 5/10/26 at 2:25 am to TenWheelsForJesus
That is a bizarre phenomenon isn’t it? Just say any damn thing they want, zero concern for consequences, zero self-respect, zero integrity. And I refuse to believe they all just so happen to be retarded on the exact same things, at the exact same timeframes, with very, very similar language. But then again I guess you do have to be retarded to lie about such open and obvious things, so easily searched and found, as if nobody’s gonna notice. 
Verdict: Yeah, definitely retarded. And they do mirror the left.
Verdict: Yeah, definitely retarded. And they do mirror the left.
Posted on 5/10/26 at 6:13 am to Masterag
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Trump doesn't give a shite about this country. Trump is not MAGA. Trump wants to be part of the globalist cabal.
That’s the reason for the tariffs? And the cutting off of new funds for Ukraine? And the attacks on Iran that Europe and Asia hate? It’s why he rolled back DEI? It’s why he is savaging NATO? And is this why he halted the border crossings and is ramping up deportations?
Posted on 5/10/26 at 6:16 am to Masterag
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fewer deportations than Obama,
This has been thoroughly debunked. Obama was taking credit for turning people away at the border.
Posted on 5/10/26 at 8:00 am to DyeHardDylan
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endorse Massie, and begin to unite the party.
Will never happen.
He and the hardcore base are much tougher on conservatives than they are liberals.
Posted on 5/10/26 at 8:18 am to Diego Ricardo
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Trump is definitely oppositional to the transnational capital elite. He’s the top dog of the national elite who are aggrieved that they aren’t the ultimate big dog so they want to end the global system so their national clique of elites can exert more control over the American system.
Well, I have to tell ya that I would much rather be controlled by national elites than global elites simply because we can always vote out the national elites, especially once the SAFE Act is in place to protect us all.
Posted on 5/10/26 at 8:34 am to SelaTiger
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Trump should do the right thing and resign. But he won’t.
Yet you voted for heels up and the Potato.
Posted on 5/10/26 at 9:28 am to Masterag
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see above
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also, where's that big beautiful wall I was promised?
You're really stupid aren't you
Posted on 5/10/26 at 10:11 am to DyeHardDylan
Massie would just backstab Trump the first chance he got so he could garner more attention for himself
Posted on 5/10/26 at 10:13 am to DyeHardDylan
No frick massie
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