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re: Trump said he did not know Putin's Helicopter was attacked by Ukrainian Drones
Posted on 5/26/25 at 3:24 pm to IvoryBillMatt
Posted on 5/26/25 at 3:24 pm to IvoryBillMatt
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The moment passed when he didn't pull the trigger IMMEDIATELY after Zelenskyy's White House visit. THAT was the perfect time. The foundation was already set.
If it turns out that Russia continues territorial expansion after our 100% removal from the machinations in Ukraine, Trump will go down in history as being a partial cause of it. And the world will get more complicated for us.
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Posted on 5/26/25 at 3:24 pm to IvoryBillMatt
Not quite, they would have called him reactionary and immature. But Kiev trying to kill Putin and instigate WW3 could very well be sufficient.
Zelenskys immaturity and insolence was insufficient to meet the threshhold, but trying to start WW3 may meet the threshhold for public consumption.
I agree, Trump is pussyfooting around too much but more than likely it was to try and get some type of leverage on Russia to make a "better deal". Well, Ukros aren't getting any type of favorable deal moving forward, it's only going to get progressively worse. They had the best deal in 2022 in Istanbul, they blew that.
Zelenskys immaturity and insolence was insufficient to meet the threshhold, but trying to start WW3 may meet the threshhold for public consumption.
I agree, Trump is pussyfooting around too much but more than likely it was to try and get some type of leverage on Russia to make a "better deal". Well, Ukros aren't getting any type of favorable deal moving forward, it's only going to get progressively worse. They had the best deal in 2022 in Istanbul, they blew that.
Posted on 5/26/25 at 3:26 pm to aTmTexas Dillo
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If it turns out that Russia continues territorial expansion after our 100% removal from the machinations in Ukraine, Trump will go down in history as being a partial cause of it. And the world will get more complicated for us.
Russia is continuing that expansion with US aid and intel. Ukrainian bottleneck now isn't weapons or armor as much as people.
If Ukros do something stupid like again try and blow up a nuclear power plant or make another attempt at Putin and it sparks off tactical nukes, guess what- Trump will be also blamed for granting Ukros resources to keep up their shitshow.
Either way, it's a lose lose PR situation. But the least harmful one is letting Ukros fend for themselves and rely on Europe. If Europe can't defend itself, it's on them.
This post was edited on 5/26/25 at 3:29 pm
Posted on 5/26/25 at 3:27 pm to MikkUGA
quote:
Killing the President or PM of another country is a serious crime.
Russia attacked Ukraine. All bets are off when you start a war. If Putin gets assassinated it'll be his fault alone.
Posted on 5/26/25 at 3:27 pm to IvoryBillMatt
Trump gets a CIA/NSA/DIA classified briefing every single morning before he does anything else. If Putin had shite the bed the night before Trump would've known.
Posted on 5/26/25 at 3:27 pm to John Barron
So he did a 2 hour event and took questions afterwards… and now you are accusing him of getting his info from Lindsay Graham instead of having common sense and realizing that he probably has not had time to have learned about this during that timeframe?
You ducking people keep grasping for air
You ducking people keep grasping for air
Posted on 5/26/25 at 3:27 pm to aTmTexas Dillo
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Trump will go down in history as being a partial cause of it.
I mean it’s inevitable that it will be trumps fault, not Russia, not Ukraine, not Biden, but trumps fault. Everything is trumps fault and everything is trumps responsibility. Trump stopped millions going to Ukraine each week and telling two leaders to stop while staying out of it but here we are needing Trump to do something and already assigning fault. Dweebs.
Posted on 5/26/25 at 3:30 pm to John Barron
What kind of drones did Ukraine send for Putin's chopper? One would think if a few hundred Ukrainian drones were encountered by Putin's chopper and not one made it to the target.....sounds like either the Russians have some good anti drone defenses or those Ukrainian drones are the same shite you can by down at the local hobby shop. 
Posted on 5/26/25 at 3:33 pm to Bass Tiger
Lol here we go with the vast superiority of Muh Russian capabilities. They are flying 13th generation hyperchoppers.
Posted on 5/26/25 at 3:34 pm to aTmTexas Dillo
quote:I worked with a Swedish guy in Moscow and he emailed me about 3 months ago.
If it turns out that Russia continues territorial expansion after our 100% removal from the machinations in Ukraine, Trump will go down in history as being a partial cause of it.
His email title was "What the frick is Trump doing kissing Putin's arse?"
This guy was the president of the largest bank in Sweden before he retired and if he was an American, he'd be considered a solid conservative Republican. All during the 2024 presidential campaign he fretted that maybe Heels-Up-Harris might have a chance to win.
I kept telling him I didn't think so but nothing was guaranteed when it came to the Dems' stealing elections.
He and I share many political beliefs especially when it comes to Putin's duplicitous KGB traits.
And Rune is aghast at how Trump is subjugating his principles to Putin. Me, too...
Posted on 5/26/25 at 3:35 pm to momentoftruth87
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I mean it’s inevitable that it will be trumps fault, not Russia, not Ukraine, not Biden, but trumps fault.
No it is not. This War is clearly on the Globalist Neocons like Victoria Nuland and Lindsey Graham. That is why I have always said Trump needs to stop fricking golfing with Lindsey Graham and taking his advice. There is a simple solution to this. You tell Zelensky he is signing the Peace Agreement where he losses the 4 oblast that he has already lost control over 80% and higher of and recognizes Crimea as Russian Territory. If he refuses (like he is currently doing) You pull out all aid,weapons, and intelligence until he signs the deal. I guarantee Zelensky will sign it after a week once he realizes Trump is serious about it
Posted on 5/26/25 at 3:37 pm to Jbird
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Lol here we go with the vast superiority of Muh Russian capabilities. They are flying 13th generation hyperchoppers.
It's hard to believe out of a few hundred drones not one could find the target.....something doesn't sound right.
Posted on 5/26/25 at 3:37 pm to John Barron
quote:That sounds a whole lot what a Russian agent would want to have happen...
If he refuses (like he is currently doing) You pull out all aid,weapons, and intelligence
Posted on 5/26/25 at 3:37 pm to lsuguy84
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Really makes you think
I've stopped paying attention to the dealings of Ukraine & Russia. I remember in the early days of the conflict, everyone was saying how Lil' Voldemort or whatever was going to find himself on the wrong end of a guided missile. Like we tried to do with Saddam.
There was a limo which exploded, but didn't have anyone in it, that I recall. And a Russian Secretary or some such's daughter of wife was killed...
Again, most of what our media reports is fabricated or to be taken with a grain of salt.
Posted on 5/26/25 at 3:38 pm to OchoDedos
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Trump gets a CIA/NSA/DIA classified briefing every single morning before he does anything else. If Putin had shite the bed the night before Trump would've known.
Yes he would've.
Maybe we all should just consider the possibility that there's no "deep state" angle here, or conspiracy to keep information from the President. But instead, he was briefed and informed about everything he needed to know and that he simply forgot.
Trump is old as shite. Biden used to forget things all the time.
Posted on 5/26/25 at 3:38 pm to Bass Tiger
Because it's frickiung bullshite and John Mao is running his version of a gotcha.
Posted on 5/26/25 at 3:38 pm to OchoDedos
quote:
Trump gets a CIA/NSA/DIA classified briefing every single morning before he does anything else. If Putin had shite the bed the night before Trump would've known.
So, when Trump said he hadn't heard about the allegation that Putin had been targeted, Trump was lying?
Posted on 5/26/25 at 3:39 pm to IvoryBillMatt
So it factually happened?
Posted on 5/26/25 at 3:40 pm to Pandy Fackler
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Trump is old as shite. Biden used to forget things all the time.
You’re a clown and completely oblivious to Trump and politics if you believe he is in the same mental condition Biden was in. Honk honk
Posted on 5/26/25 at 3:40 pm to IvoryBillMatt
quote:
Trump was lying?
How dare you
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