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re: Trump said he did not know Putin's Helicopter was attacked by Ukrainian Drones
Posted on 5/26/25 at 4:09 pm to Jbird
Posted on 5/26/25 at 4:09 pm to Jbird
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Trump said don't know what your talking about.
You are leaving out the rest of what the President said: "I hadn't heard that allegation, BUT MAYBE THAT'S WHY [PUTIN] DID WHAT HE DID."
The President was literally wondering aloud what "the Hell got into Putin." Then the reporter asked a factual question that triggered an insight by the President.
I know this doesn't mean much to most of you, but I think this is a great chance to cut ties with Ukraine immediately and leave this war to the Europeans. On the other hand, you might be right and it could be just a big bowl of Russian propaganda.
Under Trump/Gabbard, I would hope the American public could be treated to the truth.
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Posted on 5/26/25 at 4:10 pm to IvoryBillMatt
I get you angle on cutting out.
But Trump saying well gee maybe that's why...is a nothing burger
But Trump saying well gee maybe that's why...is a nothing burger
Posted on 5/26/25 at 4:12 pm to IvoryBillMatt
So Trump/Gabbard need to run out there for every allegation every day?
Or do the need to publicly affirm or deny everything including classified data?
Or do the need to publicly affirm or deny everything including classified data?
Posted on 5/26/25 at 4:16 pm to John Barron
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I agree with your statement. But we do know Ukraine was attacking Moscow for 3 days with a massive drone attack and President Trump did not mention this. He said he had no idea why Putin would be attacking Kiev. That shows he was not given the information on Ukraine attacking Moscow and even if you believe the attack did not happen on Putin’s Helicopter, the report still should have been told to Trump by his team. I would feel alot better if this was Trump's answer to that question.
Trump: Yes, I am aware of the reports by Russia that Ukraine has attacked Putin’s Helicopter and we are still gathering evidence and information to determine if these reports are accurate. If they are accurate, Zelensky has totally gone crazy and we can no longer work with this madman who is trying to start WWIII
He might've answered it that way, had he not forgotten he was briefed on Putin's claims.
Posted on 5/26/25 at 4:16 pm to northshorebamaman
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Way back in January 2022, before the full-scale invasion even kicked off, Russia sent over 400 Wagner Group mercenaries into Kyiv with one job: locate and kill Zelenskyy and anyone close to him. Hundreds of hired goons with a kill list, courtesy of Moscow.
More fake news from a NAFO Troll. Do you know how stupid and unrealistic that story sounds? Of Course it came from the U.K. who is like a tabloid when it comes to reporting on the Ukraine-Russia War. I was around but you were probably one of the NAFO clowns posting the Ghost of Kiev story while you were jerking off to Adam Kinzinger pictures 
"Reports from early 2022, particularly around late February, claim that approximately 400 Wagner Group mercenaries were deployed to Kyiv with the intent to assassinate Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky and other key government figures. These reports, are cited by sources like The Times of London.
" These claims lack independent verification and rely heavily on Western and Ukrainian sources, which could be influenced by wartime narratives. The Kremlin has consistently denied direct control over the Wagner Group, asserting it is a private entity, and some later posts on X, such as one from April 2025, claim that Wagner leader Prigozhin and others dismissed these assassination allegations as fabrications.
Posted on 5/26/25 at 4:17 pm to John Barron
NAFO!!! fricking clown
This post was edited on 5/26/25 at 4:17 pm
Posted on 5/26/25 at 4:21 pm to Jbird
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What's so confusing about not hearing about an allegation?
Enlighten me please.
Nothing is confusing. I agree with JB that it suggests the President isn't being fully briefed on what's going on in Ukraine.
President Trump isn't perfect, so Pandy's point about him just forgetting isn't out of the question, but it doesn't fit this set of facts. The only plausible explanation is that he was briefed about Russia's missle attack on Ukraine without any reference to "but there's an allegation that the attack was in response to an assassination attempt on Putin." Which should have been followed by "we're looking into the allegation" or "the allegation was bogus" or "that little tyrant is trying to escalate the war and drag us further into it by the assassination of Putin."
Posted on 5/26/25 at 4:24 pm to IvoryBillMatt
Why would I brief my boss on unverified and highly doubtful allegations?
Any idea how long a PDB would take? I mean it cover all international threats and events
Any idea how long a PDB would take? I mean it cover all international threats and events
Posted on 5/26/25 at 4:25 pm to Pandy Fackler
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Unless of course you're one of those who believe "dark forces" within the intelligence community are conspiring against Trump and his team
This has already proven to be true. It is no conspiracy. Why are you denying things we know for a fact have already occurred? CNN even reported this.
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If tweet fails to load, click here. Posted on 5/26/25 at 4:27 pm to John Barron
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Who gives two shits of Trump knew about drones attacking Putins helicopter???
Are you being serious? If Putin’s Helicopter was attacked by Zelensky and Trump knew about it but did not have a problem with it, that means he has no intentions of ending the War. That would be a serious escalation that would drastically increase the intensity of the War which I believe Trump is trying to prevent from happening. It is clear from that Video that Trump had no idea of those reports and he was caught off guard. This better be a wakeup call for him before he loses complete control to the Neocons
Im 100% serious. Another thing I dont give two shits about, the Ukraine war. If Zylinski wants to continue down his losing path and sacrifice his country and its citizens, thats his prerogative.
Trump needs to hurry up and walk away. He tried to stop the war, it isn't working out. frick em.
Not one more penny of my taxes should be sent there.
Posted on 5/26/25 at 4:29 pm to John Barron
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If they are accurate, Zelensky has totally gone crazy and we can no longer work with this madman who is trying to start WWIII
We've gone round and round on this, but I suspect most of us want the same result: the US disentangled from Ukraine. IF the attack on Putin happened without consultation with the US, this is the perfect opportunity to do that.
Posted on 5/26/25 at 4:33 pm to IvoryBillMatt
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You are leaving out the rest of what the President said: "I hadn't heard that allegation, BUT MAYBE THAT'S WHY [PUTIN] DID WHAT HE DID."
The President was literally wondering aloud what "the Hell got into Putin." Then the reporter asked a factual question that triggered an insight by the President.
This is spot on and I am truly baffled that more people cannot see that from the Video. You seem to have a good ability to watch something and properly assess what Trump was thinking during the interview. There is a big problem if Trump was not given this information regardless if you think it is true or not. He at least would have been better prepared to answer that question
Posted on 5/26/25 at 4:34 pm to Pandy Fackler
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I remember all these dumb frickin' fantasies this board had that Trump was going to cut off Ukraine and leave them flailing in the wind.
Trump really has no control over the money. He can veto Congressional Spending Bills until the cows come home, but if he's veto overriden, that money is going out, and nobody wants to get hauled before a Congressional Committee to answer why mandated funding isn't being spent.
This post was edited on 5/26/25 at 4:36 pm
Posted on 5/26/25 at 4:34 pm to John Barron
So every unverified allegation needs to be briefed to POTUS.
Clown.
Clown.
Posted on 5/26/25 at 4:34 pm to Jbird
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Why would I brief my boss on unverified and highly doubtful allegations?
Because of the impact IF those allegations are true. "Mr. President, this could be nothing but more Russian propaganda, but they allege the attacks were in retaliation for similar Ukrainian attacks AND a possible assassination attempt on Putin. We will have you an answer by tomorrow as to whether or not there was an assassination attempt."
Posted on 5/26/25 at 4:35 pm to John Barron
Oh, bless your heart, John Barron, you’re back with more of that Kremlin-approved comedy. Calling the assassination attempts on Zelenskyy “fake news” while waving your little “NAFO Troll” flag—adorable. I get it, though; when your whole worldview comes straight from Putin’s Telegram fan club, anything that doesn’t fit that script must sound “stupid and unrealistic.”
“Kremlin denies control over Wagner”? It’s like saying a puppet doesn’t need strings, it just dances on its own! The Wagner Group was Russia’s deniable hit squad for years, popping up everywhere from Syria to Ukraine, oh so conveniently aligned with Putin’s goals. Prigozhin might’ve called it a fabrication later, but that was the sound of a once-loyal lapdog barking on cue. The Kremlin’s “it’s a private entity” excuse is as flimsy as your argument here.
As for your “NAFO Troll” and “jerking off to Adam Kinzinger” zingers, maybe spend less time fantasizing about my Kinzinger shrine and more time googling “Wagner Group war crimes”. You might broaden your horizons beyond the Kremlin’s echo chamber.
Let’s be real: your whole “it’s all Western bias” schtick is just you parroting the same tired lines Putin’s been feeding his fanboys since day one. Dismissing every Ukrainian and Western source while clutching the Kremlin’s denials like a security blanket? That’s not skepticism. That’s being a Russian stooge with a side of autism. At least come up with insults that don’t sound like they were scraped off a Telegram troll farm floor.
“Kremlin denies control over Wagner”? It’s like saying a puppet doesn’t need strings, it just dances on its own! The Wagner Group was Russia’s deniable hit squad for years, popping up everywhere from Syria to Ukraine, oh so conveniently aligned with Putin’s goals. Prigozhin might’ve called it a fabrication later, but that was the sound of a once-loyal lapdog barking on cue. The Kremlin’s “it’s a private entity” excuse is as flimsy as your argument here.
As for your “NAFO Troll” and “jerking off to Adam Kinzinger” zingers, maybe spend less time fantasizing about my Kinzinger shrine and more time googling “Wagner Group war crimes”. You might broaden your horizons beyond the Kremlin’s echo chamber.
Let’s be real: your whole “it’s all Western bias” schtick is just you parroting the same tired lines Putin’s been feeding his fanboys since day one. Dismissing every Ukrainian and Western source while clutching the Kremlin’s denials like a security blanket? That’s not skepticism. That’s being a Russian stooge with a side of autism. At least come up with insults that don’t sound like they were scraped off a Telegram troll farm floor.
Posted on 5/26/25 at 4:38 pm to IvoryBillMatt
IF so I guess the pdb should be a rumor mill of what ifs?
Posted on 5/26/25 at 4:39 pm to Jbird
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fricking clown
Did you "misremembered" something again you lying shitbird? I don't have conversations with admitted liars. Have fun talking to yourself lying shitbird
"You wrecked yourself by purposely telling a dumbass lie you knew was not true. That is how stupid you are. That tends to be the case with old fossils like yourself who have no ability to have an intelligent conversation. So you resort to name calling, lying and making up BS."
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Meh I misremembered
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Posted on 5/26/25 at 4:40 pm to IvoryBillMatt
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We've gone round and round on this, but I suspect most of us want the same result: the US disentangled from Ukraine. IF the attack on Putin happened without consultation with the US, this is the perfect opportunity to do that.
Everyone wants that but it won't happen. As it stands, Trump is sending military equipment and sharing intelligence. And now that he essentially called Putin a crazy person, the cash machine will start revving up again.
According to Trump, not only does he not know if this attack happened or not. He's not even aware Putin made these claims. Now either Trump forgot he was given this information, or just like his last term. He hired "the best people" again.
Posted on 5/26/25 at 4:41 pm to John Barron
Admitted I misremembered one of your 723 threads on the vastly superior Chinese military?
frick off you clown.
frick off you clown.
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