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re: Trump not interested in reducing Housing Prices

Posted on 12/23/25 at 2:45 pm to
Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
89765 posts
Posted on 12/23/25 at 2:45 pm to
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Holy fricking shite he actually said that?


Holy fricking shite can you go a single day without crying like a little bitch?


This is one more thing you dumb fricks will be wrong about.



I'm still waiting on tariffs to cause the great depression you promised.
Posted by GreatLakesTiger24
Member since May 2012
60661 posts
Posted on 12/23/25 at 2:45 pm to
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Car's depreciate
car’s what depreciate?
Posted by RollTide4547
Member since Dec 2024
4690 posts
Posted on 12/23/25 at 2:46 pm to
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Not if they agree to it.
This is true, but how do you plan to get them to agree to it? Negotiations? Are young people too stupid to negotiate price?

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Why should home prices be protected from market forces?
Market forces would set the price, true. Forcing people to sell for less is not the "market force" you think it is. If we kick 20+ million illegals out, there will be MILLIONS of empty homes and apartments looking for buyers and renters.
Posted by RollTide4547
Member since Dec 2024
4690 posts
Posted on 12/23/25 at 2:47 pm to
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which is why govt. needs to get out of housing completely. Let a crash happen and start anew
How exactly is the gov't in the housing to get out of, other than backing loans?
Posted by gaetti15
AK
Member since Apr 2013
15292 posts
Posted on 12/23/25 at 2:48 pm to
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If we kick 20+ million illegals out, there will be MILLIONS of empty homes and apartments looking for buyers and renters.


that'd be nice, but our government is incompetent and has been for quite some time. We would be lucky to get 1/20th of that number
Posted by scottydoesntknow
Member since Nov 2023
10870 posts
Posted on 12/23/25 at 2:50 pm to
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This area of market conditions may be a bit above your head but I can assure you not mine


ok boomer

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If millions of people being shifted away from living in America and millions more to go as well then prices will naturally fall.


Slightly. There are already plenty of houses in the ghetto. Illegals arent occupying much desirable real estate in safe neighborhoods for young families.

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Taking that same time to over supply the market will artificially keep all related prices high.


Costs to build, sure, which is why they'd require subsidization and/or tax breaks. The GOP is perfectly fine with subsidizing banking, farming, the stock market, and cheap immigrant labor...but itd be "commie" to encourage the building of homes. The costs to build will face downward pressure as the price homes are sold for decrease due to supply. Margins will shrink, builders will stop building...until the trade's market catches up to increase the supply of skilled trades people...which is also a major issue.

This post was edited on 12/23/25 at 2:53 pm
Posted by RollTide4547
Member since Dec 2024
4690 posts
Posted on 12/23/25 at 2:52 pm to
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We would be lucky to get 1/20th of that number
Can you do math? A google search shows 1.6 million illegals have self-deported this year and over 500K have been force deported. That is 2.1 million in 11 months. 1/20th of 20 Million is 1 Million. Trump administration has deported TWICE what you claim we'd be luck to get and did so in only 11 months....
This post was edited on 12/23/25 at 2:53 pm
Posted by gaetti15
AK
Member since Apr 2013
15292 posts
Posted on 12/23/25 at 2:52 pm to
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How exactly is the gov't in the housing to get out of, other than backing loans?



on top of what you listed...anything that HUD does (housing assistance, "community" development), manipulating interest rates, influencing monetary policy, tax policy, etc.
Posted by gaetti15
AK
Member since Apr 2013
15292 posts
Posted on 12/23/25 at 2:53 pm to
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Can you do math? A google search shows 1.6 million illegals have self-deported this year and over 500K have been force deported. That is 2.1 million in 11 months. 1/20th of 20 Million is 1 Million. Trump administration has deported TWICE what you claim we'd be luck to get in only 11 months....



I don't believe the government with numbers, you can make numbers say anything (i.e. see anything from the pandemic, Biden's economy numbers, etc.)
Posted by scottydoesntknow
Member since Nov 2023
10870 posts
Posted on 12/23/25 at 2:54 pm to
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Spending habits of the youth is part of the problem. If you really want to buy a house, you will find a way to do it.
Absolutely true.


Stupid take
Posted by BTROleMisser
Murica'
Member since Nov 2017
13609 posts
Posted on 12/23/25 at 2:54 pm to
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The frick?

Trump's stance is pure populism in its most socialist form


Populism would have been deflating home prices below their market value with the objective of putting lower wage earners and those with lower net worth in them. Nerd.
Posted by lionward2014
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2015
14048 posts
Posted on 12/23/25 at 2:54 pm to
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What you want is to force people to sell their homes to you at a lower price than the market price.. That's stealing. You want to steal from others.


WTF

No one is forcing anyone to sell. You are free to hold out on selling until you get the price you want, doesn't mean the government should prop it up for you artificially.

You are a full on socialist bro.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476619 posts
Posted on 12/23/25 at 2:54 pm to
Trump's specifically aiming at maintaining boomer and older Gen X support. He literally lays it out with his quotes.
Posted by onepiecemayne
Member since Nov 2023
1225 posts
Posted on 12/23/25 at 2:55 pm to
The US still has one of the best housing affordability rates globally.

In China's urban areas, the house price-to-income ratio is x20-30. In the US, it's like 5.
Posted by RollTide4547
Member since Dec 2024
4690 posts
Posted on 12/23/25 at 2:58 pm to
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anything that HUD does (housing assistance, "community" development)
This would all apply to the poor people. If those people could afford to buy a home, they wouldn't be in public housing. If anything, money spent providing public housing eases the demand for a finite number of rental homes and causes the home prices overall to be lower (less demand with a given number of available home, lower price)

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manipulating interest rates
You think if interest rates go back to 1980's range (16%) folks would have a better opportunity to get a home?

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influencing monetary policy, tax policy,
Let inflation and taxes run wild? You think that would help people buy homes?
Posted by omegaman66
greenwell springs
Member since Oct 2007
27178 posts
Posted on 12/23/25 at 2:58 pm to
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Unbelievably effing stupid.


You talking about yourself? He said he wanted his cake and eat it too. He did not side with the elderly... he did not side with the young. He said he is looking into it and want both.

All the people screaming like he said something he did not say in the thread need to rewatch the video three or four times apparently.
Posted by deathvalleytiger10
Member since Sep 2009
9283 posts
Posted on 12/23/25 at 3:00 pm to
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Prices need to fall. Bigly. The bubble needs to pop


Tell me more about this so called "bubble"
Posted by wackatimesthree
Member since Oct 2019
13455 posts
Posted on 12/23/25 at 3:00 pm to
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addressing housing prices are more important than ensuring some people's portfolios are protected because all their wealth is tied into their house.


That's more important to prospective first time home owners.

It's not more important to people who already own houses.

Only a few of whom are "rich Boomers," btw.

The people really hurt by futzing with the market to lower housing prices are the people over the past decade or so who scraped and saved and bought at artificially inflated prices (due at least in part to the insane demand driving up rental prices caused by tens of millions of illegals allowed into the country).

And those people are the majority of the homeowners in the country right now (62% of all home owners in America are aged 30-45). Only 34% of all homeowners are 65+.
Posted by RollTide4547
Member since Dec 2024
4690 posts
Posted on 12/23/25 at 3:01 pm to
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I don't believe the government with numbers, you can make numbers say anything
Ok. Do you believe your own eyes? My local walmart used to be packed with non english speaking folks. Couldn't walk down a food isle without having to pass thru a spanish family reunion or Sinco DeMayo event. Went this past weekend. Walmart was very busy, saw a few but not 1/10 of what we saw before. They went somewhere.
This post was edited on 12/23/25 at 3:16 pm
Posted by wackatimesthree
Member since Oct 2019
13455 posts
Posted on 12/23/25 at 3:01 pm to
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Stupid take


Only if facts are stupid.

And I'm quite certain that more than just a few posters here think they are.
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