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re: Trump is getting dragged all over X about caving to the left
Posted on 2/5/26 at 9:37 am to NC_Tigah
Posted on 2/5/26 at 9:37 am to NC_Tigah
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Walz orders zero cooperation with ICE in MN, so with no local cooperation, DHS is forced to deploy 2700 of its 13000 agents there. Walz then caves and says "My bad. We will cooperate." So 700 ICE agents could then be redeployed elsewhere. Meanwhile, the escalated MN situation has netted just 400 ICE detentions ... 30x less than Texas ... not very efficient.
That's Trump caving?
Trump caving is not declaring Insurrection Act and sending the 82nd Airborne in there a la Eisenhower.
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Posted on 2/5/26 at 9:37 am to Earnest_P
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rump saying the “good” illegal immigrants can stay is caving.
not necessarily - 10-20 million illegal aliens were ushered into the country.
The must go after the most egregious ones first - would not make sense to spend resources arresting a lawn maintenance illegal while murderers and rapists were on the prowl.
and if you think the public/media outcry from the blue states is bad now, consider what would be happening if concentration was on actual hard working parents.
Meanwhile they are offering monetary enticements for voluntary self-deportation, who have the option to return under proper procedures.
Posted on 2/5/26 at 9:39 am to burger bearcat
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But 90% of politics is winning these PR battles.
Just curious. What was the PR in MN looking like the previous 2 weeks?
Posted on 2/5/26 at 9:46 am to 50_Tiger
quote:or rather it shows that local authorities working with ice to get rid of illegal immigrants is a good idea, and that's what the whole thing was about in the first place. So you think it is a good idea to make a show of force, give conditions for it to stop, and then not do what you said when the condition is met? That's moronic
Because it affirms ANTIFA and Democrat positions of bitch / destroy / terrorize when they want things done.
Posted on 2/5/26 at 9:47 am to burger bearcat
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He’s giving them the PR win, go read any MSM media source right now. They are all celebrating and gloating about it. PR and messaging is 90% of this and how we advance policy. The Dems understand this, and goober clown Reps think it’s about winning some debate with facts. Most Americans are uniformed retards, and just will see the short clips and media headlines.
What a freaking moron. No one follows mainstream media anymore.
Posted on 2/5/26 at 9:49 am to burger bearcat
I’d rather they concentrate on the dangerous criminals first because they are an actual danger to society. Then they can go after the criminals who entered the country illegally.
Posted on 2/5/26 at 9:57 am to TrueTiger
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Media tells us he caved.
His actions are his actions.
Posted on 2/5/26 at 10:00 am to burger bearcat
Just a crazy hunch, but I wouldn't be surprised if Melania hasn't influenced him on this. I like Melania a great deal, but I think she has a bit of a tender heart regarding this issue.
Posted on 2/5/26 at 10:02 am to burger bearcat
quote:Rhats not caving, that’s prioritizing. And need to be this way because in most sanctuary cities, being an illegal is a get-out-of-jail-free card. Local authorities won’t keep illegals to prevent ICE from picking them up.
Trump: "We are totally focused on criminals, really bad criminals. Now you could say people that came in illegally are criminals, but I'm talking about murderers from different countries."
Posted on 2/5/26 at 10:04 am to NC_Tigah
1000s of agents to catch 400 illegals. waste of resources.
DHS would find more in 1 neighborhood in California or Texas.
DHS would find more in 1 neighborhood in California or Texas.
Posted on 2/5/26 at 10:07 am to burger bearcat
Trump is not in control. Suzie on the domestic front and Jared on the foreign policy front are in control.
Posted on 2/5/26 at 10:07 am to Great Plains Drifter
Maduro in Venezuela and Iran thought Trump talked big and carried a small stick until he didn't.
Posted on 2/5/26 at 11:54 am to roadGator
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Trump Defense Soldiers need to retire.
It’s good he has them because he’s attacked remorselessly and relentlessly by the left.
I’d prefer they focus their effort on the left.
But I’m not going to stop calling balls and strikes objectively so if that means they want to send shots my way so be it. All I ask is that they bring logic and some sense of objectivity otherwise there is no point in any discourse because it’s just pure tribalism me = good, you = bad and that’s a waste of everyone’s time.
Posted on 2/5/26 at 2:02 pm to tide06
quote:One of us is advocating removing thousands of illegals. The other is advocating removing hundreds of illegals.
One of us is advocating for removing all illegal aliens wherever we find them as was promised in the campaign.
You cannot claim to want something then celebrate when people don’t do that thing and expect to be considered as having a logically consistent position.
So yeah, unfortunately you are a useful idiot.
Posted on 2/5/26 at 2:14 pm to burger bearcat
Trump bent the knee in his first face-off with Antifa
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Posted on 2/5/26 at 2:19 pm to NC_Tigah
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The other is advocating removing hundreds of illegals.
Donald Trump campaigned on removing millions of illegals.
Not just violent criminals.
Millions of illegals.
So is your position that I’m a “useful idiot” for believing him? Or that I’m a useful idiot for wanting him to actually do that?
Because I fully understand the consequences of him doing so.
I want the consequences to occur. Because those consequences are positive to what it is I would like to see happen.
I have no idea what your position even is or what you’re advocating for beyond blindly supporting DJT and calling me names when I don’t.
Posted on 2/5/26 at 2:21 pm to tide06
Trump is a surrender monkey
Posted on 2/5/26 at 2:21 pm to burger bearcat
I think Trump has handled this very well.
Democrats wanted chaos and riots in the streets.
Dumb to keep giving it to them.
Democrats wanted chaos and riots in the streets.
Dumb to keep giving it to them.
Posted on 2/5/26 at 2:24 pm to Taxing Authority
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Rhats not caving, that’s prioritizing. And need to be this way because in most sanctuary cities, being an illegal is a get-out-of-jail-free card. Local authorities won’t keep illegals to prevent ICE from picking them up.
It’s a problem of his own doing.
If he talked in terms of compromise instead of “winning!” Or “owning the libs”… then he wouldn’t get dragged for caving.
If he were focused on efficiency instead of retribution, then he would be focused on border states where there is more bang for the buck
And instead of being strategic with his political capital… he wanted Stephen Miller, Kristi Noem, and Dan Bovino to create chaos
This post was edited on 2/5/26 at 2:27 pm
Posted on 2/5/26 at 2:30 pm to burger bearcat
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We are totally focused on criminals, really bad criminals. Now you could say people that came in illegally are criminals, but I'm talking about murderers from different countries.
What he said is obviously bullshite. It's not illegal to bullshite a reporter. Why is he being dragged if they are actually deporting every illegal?
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