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re: Trump bans AI giant Anthropic, after dispute of AI military weapons and surveillance
Posted on 2/27/26 at 8:26 pm to Big Scrub TX
Posted on 2/27/26 at 8:26 pm to Big Scrub TX
Are you high? What does this have to do with my statement?
If anything, it further proves my stance; this is media rah rah perpetrated by “fortune.com” (and by a Goldman - HUUH THATS WEIRD) when in the backroom, the leaders of ChatCPT, Anthropic, Gemini are all on the same page for one simple objective - profit.
If anything, it further proves my stance; this is media rah rah perpetrated by “fortune.com” (and by a Goldman - HUUH THATS WEIRD) when in the backroom, the leaders of ChatCPT, Anthropic, Gemini are all on the same page for one simple objective - profit.
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Posted on 2/27/26 at 8:56 pm to bignuss18
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No, he doesn’t,
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Lol...
Hes world class petty.
Posted on 2/27/26 at 9:03 pm to Diego Ricardo
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think Anthropic's desires to not be used in weapon systems or mass surveillance are laudable. However, the DoW doesn't have to do business with them. Furthermore, I am deeply concerned when the White House starts trying to compel private companies to do things under specious defense production justification.
This is called capitalism. Dept of war won't do business. Ai company must decide how to find the right customer
Posted on 2/27/26 at 9:07 pm to HailToTheChiz
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This is called capitalism. Dept of war won't do business. Ai company must decide how to find the right customer
Right. I don't like the government claiming war necessities without any war that justifies such drastic intervention in private enterprise.
Yeah, it made sense to tell Ford and GM they're making tanks, jeeps, fighters, and bombers when WWII is going on.
I'm not sure I see the same national security urgency over AI right now but there may be a day and when it comes nobody who cares about this country will penning letters about their red lines.
Posted on 2/27/26 at 9:13 pm to Diego Ricardo
You don’t need a war to prepare for the next war.
Posted on 2/27/26 at 9:13 pm to Diego Ricardo
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I'm not sure I see the same national security urgency over AI right now but there may be a day and when it comes nobody who cares about this country will penning letters about their red lines.
In my opinion there is not enough concern.
Government wants to know the full extent of a potential enemy tool. We can't wait for stuff to hit the fan then figure it out. AI will be far advanced in 5 years
Posted on 2/27/26 at 9:13 pm to Big Scrub TX
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In essence Trump will agree to Antrhopic's terms, just with open AI instead, cause Hegseth is such a clown he bluffed and can’t back down but in essence they will?
Basically. The pentagon wanted Anthropic to back down and give in. But they didn’t. So the pentagon dropped the most advanced AI for a lesser model with the same standards.
Hegseth was embarrassed and now the pentagon is downgrading for no reason
This post was edited on 2/27/26 at 9:38 pm
Posted on 2/27/26 at 9:20 pm to VOLhalla
I think Anthropic is doing us all a solid. We don’t want a surveillance state. Almost nothing good comes from that route. Hell almost every dystopian fiction is predicated on this type of technology getting into the wrong hands.
Posted on 2/27/26 at 9:27 pm to E Redcoat
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Yeah seems bad. The surveillance implications are crazy, especially when we contemplate what some future administration might use it for.
Again, you don’t change your name to the Department of War for nothing. Trump is seeking federal control over elections, and now Pete is creating a surveillance state. It’s not hard to draw a conclusion on this one.
This post was edited on 2/27/26 at 9:28 pm
Posted on 2/27/26 at 9:33 pm to Narax
That is what they want you to believe. These guys stack money hand over fist and while they can be greedy, they know their products have enough overlap to destroy one another. It’s technology’s version of M.A.D. Hence my analogy to Apple, Microsoft and Linux. They all serve a purpose, but anyone one of them can serve any purpose. They’ve come to backroom agreements to divide and conquer the market. AI isn’t any different to any other product, consumed by the masses or consumed by the government.
Another analogy - Raytheon, Lockheed, Northrop - all can achieve the same thing, but they also don’t seem to want to. There is no explanation other than controlled diversification within the same market. They make enough money, hand over fist, to justify it.
Another analogy - Raytheon, Lockheed, Northrop - all can achieve the same thing, but they also don’t seem to want to. There is no explanation other than controlled diversification within the same market. They make enough money, hand over fist, to justify it.
Posted on 2/27/26 at 9:36 pm to bignuss18
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That is what they want you to believe.
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No... he's really that petty...
Posted on 2/27/26 at 9:56 pm to Narax
I mean hey, if that’s what you believe, I don’t disagree. Maybe he is. But my experience in the industry tells me otherwise. To each their own.
Posted on 2/27/26 at 9:58 pm to Diego Ricardo
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Right. I don't like the government claiming war necessities without any war that justifies such drastic intervention in private enterprise.
It isn't like the government is an outside third party here interfering, though. They're asking for services to be provided a certain way, anthropic can say yes or no.
Has it been confirmed that the dispute was over autonomous weapons/mass surveillance, or is everyone just taking Anthropic's word for it?
The idea that the military would more or less have to answer to a private company is straight out of cyberpunk books, movies, and games that every self-proclaimed intellectual warns about, yet you look online and it's all about how wonderful Anthropic is for "standing up for freedom" and the like.
The Hill
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He wants nothing more than to try to personally control the US Military and is ok putting our nation’s safety at risk,” Michael continued. “The @DeptofWar will ALWAYS adhere to the law but not bend to whims of any one for-profit tech company.”
Posted on 2/27/26 at 10:04 pm to Diego Ricardo
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I think Anthropic's desires to not be used in weapon systems or mass surveillance are laudable. However, the DoW doesn't have to do business with them. Furthermore, I am deeply concerned when the White House starts trying to compel private companies to do things under specious defense production justification.
Well one thing the ceo and Trump agree on is not falling behind China.
Just don’t agree on anything else. Especially considering the CEO is a Harris supporter.
Posted on 2/27/26 at 10:16 pm to bignuss18
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. To each their own.
Yea I wouldn't disagree on the other ones, especially the older established ones.
Posted on 2/27/26 at 10:25 pm to SnacknGold06
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We don’t want a surveillance state.
As you willingly give Google, X, Meta, Open AI, etc all of your information for free. Doh!
Posted on 2/28/26 at 12:27 am to GetMeOutOfHere
This whole thing was handled very poorly. It's now been handed to Open AI. Anthropic is the superior model, already integrated and proven to have worked in a serious operation like Venezuela.
I said earlier it was because Hegseth stupidly bluffed and then couldn't go back. But I wonder if it wasn't just garden variety corruption, as Open AI is by far Trump's biggest donor.
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If tweet fails to load, click here. I said earlier it was because Hegseth stupidly bluffed and then couldn't go back. But I wonder if it wasn't just garden variety corruption, as Open AI is by far Trump's biggest donor.
Posted on 2/28/26 at 12:28 am to VOLhalla
quote:Yeah. fricking clown show.
The pentagon wanted Anthropic to back down and give in. But they didn’t. So the pentagon dropped the most advanced AI for a lesser model with the same standards.
Hegseth was embarrassed and now the pentagon is downgrading for no reason
Posted on 2/28/26 at 1:06 am to Big Scrub TX
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I said earlier it was because Hegseth stupidly bluffed and then couldn't go back. But I wonder if it wasn't just garden variety corruption, as Open AI is by far Trump's biggest donor.
Possibly true
Another note to add is that OpenAI is floundering and cash-strapped--they are desperate. This could be the move Pete needs to get his way, because OpenAI cannot afford to lose ANY deal so they will bend the knee at any request.
Posted on 2/28/26 at 2:07 am to Big Scrub TX
It’s time for America to wake TF up about what is happening.
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