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re: Trump Administration Used Potential Meeting to Pressure Ukraine on Biden, Texts Show
Posted on 10/4/19 at 11:47 am to bmy
Posted on 10/4/19 at 11:47 am to bmy
quote:I'm not sure if you are being obtuse or not.
I'm not sure if you are being obtuse or not.
I am quoting the bullshite directly from the bullshite quote which came directly from the bullshite speculative piece you referenced that there was to be "a draft statement in which Kyiv would announce an investigation into . . . the 2016 U.S. election."
The "journalist" who concocted that assertion invented a statement which was completely implausible. That is the point.
It is inconceivable that either the US or Ukraine would announce agreements using the language as offered as a Sourced Quote. So we know the "journalist" who concocted that quote is completely FOS. I have explained why.
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Posted on 10/4/19 at 11:49 am to bmy
quote:We have.
Then the US should formally open an investigation.
quote:
Ever wonder why the Trump admin is trying to get Ukraine to investigate without formally opening an investigation?
Posted on 10/4/19 at 11:55 am to deathvalleytiger10
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Because they found out about the potential corruption this past spring about the same time Biden announced his candidacy. Pretty simple to understand.
Try mid-late 2018.. which is when Rudy G was receiving documents from Shokin
Posted on 10/4/19 at 11:55 am to NC_Tigah
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We have.
Link?
Posted on 10/4/19 at 11:56 am to Big Scrub TX
good....I hope he got all the dirt on that fricker
Posted on 10/4/19 at 11:58 am to NC_Tigah
quote:
The "journalist" who concocted that assertion invented a statement which was completely implausible. That is the point.
It is inconceivable that either the US or Ukraine would announce agreements using the language as offered as a Sourced Quote. So we know the "journalist" who concocted that quote is completely FOS. I have explained why.
The messages show that U.S. officials coordinated with aides to the Ukrainian president and Rudy Giuliani, Mr. Trump’s private lawyer, on a draft statement in which Kyiv would announce an investigation into Mr. Biden and the 2016 U.S. election—at the same time as announcing a visit by the Ukrainian president to the White House.
Looks like you made up a quote.
This post was edited on 10/4/19 at 11:59 am
Posted on 10/4/19 at 11:59 am to bmy
quote:[quote]WASHINGTON — An investigation into Ukraine by the U.S. Attorney for Connecticut was flagged in the controversial just-released whistleblower complaint and could draw new scrutiny as House Democrats pursue a vigorous impeachment inquiry into whether President Donald Trump pressured a foreign nation for information that could benefit his 2020 campaign.
Link?
John Durham, an acclaimed prosecutor who heads the U.S. Attorney’s office in New Haven, is now leading a Department of Justice team looking into the role Ukraine and other countries played in the origins of the U.S. counterintelligence probe of the Trump 2016 presidential campaign./quote]
Posted on 10/4/19 at 11:59 am to bmy
Let's use the crime of bribery as an example. Let's say both Bidens were involved in the negotiation of a bribery agreement while physically in Ukraine, the parties being Joe in his capacity as a U.S. govt official, Hunter as a go between with the funds flowing through Burisma to Hunter as "board member compensation," and at some later point Joe takes a cut via deposit into his bank account in the U.S. The original bribery agreement and parties thereto all occurred in Ukraine. Ukranian crime that must be investigated and prosecuted in Ukraine. Now, Ukraine may invite the FBI to participate, but Ukrainian officials would make arrest there and court proceedings would take place there. The crime was completed over there.
Then Joe and Hunter could and would0 thereafter be prosecuted here for the American crimes related to those illegal funds coming here, as well as malfeasance (whatever the technical federal crime name may be) on Joe's part here in the U.S.
But bottom line is the Ukrainian crime must be dealt with first to establish that any such funds that came to the U.S. were fruits of a crime in the first place.
Then Joe and Hunter could and would0 thereafter be prosecuted here for the American crimes related to those illegal funds coming here, as well as malfeasance (whatever the technical federal crime name may be) on Joe's part here in the U.S.
But bottom line is the Ukrainian crime must be dealt with first to establish that any such funds that came to the U.S. were fruits of a crime in the first place.
Posted on 10/4/19 at 12:00 pm to 93and99
Dick Cheney says NO
Posted on 10/4/19 at 12:04 pm to bmy
quote:
"a draft statement in which Kyiv would announce an investigation into . . . the 2016 U.S. election."
quote:Does it?
a draft statement in which Kyiv would announce an investigation into Mr. Biden and the 2016 U.S. election—at the same time as announcing a visit by the Ukrainian president to the White House.
Looks like you made up a quote.
Posted on 10/4/19 at 12:04 pm to Mickey Goldmill
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Watch. Everyone will bash and discredit an article from the Wall Street Journal
I know right!!! Journalistic integrity is alive and well at CNN too I bet! They never lie or scream at the sky.
Posted on 10/4/19 at 12:04 pm to Big Scrub TX
quote:
Link?
Did you not see the live pc?
Posted on 10/4/19 at 12:05 pm to NC_Tigah
quote:
John Durham, an acclaimed prosecutor who heads the U.S. Attorney’s office in New Haven, is now leading a Department of Justice team looking into the role Ukraine and other countries played in the origins of the U.S. counterintelligence probe of the Trump 2016 presidential campaign.
What does this have to do with the Biden investigation Trump asked for?
Posted on 10/4/19 at 12:06 pm to Big Scrub TX
You libs really need to make up your minds.
Is it OK for a President to investigate the opposition party's candidates or not?
Is it OK for a President to ask other nations for help doing it or not?
Because only 3 years ago, it was a fricking noble exercise!
Is it OK for a President to investigate the opposition party's candidates or not?
Is it OK for a President to ask other nations for help doing it or not?
Because only 3 years ago, it was a fricking noble exercise!
Posted on 10/4/19 at 12:08 pm to NC_Tigah
quote:
Does it?
You are functionally retarded
'using the language as offered' quote:
NC_Tigah:
The "journalist" who concocted that assertion invented a statement which was completely implausible. That is the point.
It is inconceivable that either the US or Ukraine would announce agreements using the language as offered as a Sourced Quote. So we know the "journalist" who concocted that quote is completely FOS.
Posted on 10/4/19 at 12:09 pm to Rickdaddy4188
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Rickdaddy4188
If that were true, then you would definitely have a larger net worth and be more successful than Trump right?
Should we compare the two of you?
This post was edited on 10/4/19 at 12:10 pm
Posted on 10/4/19 at 12:12 pm to Big Scrub TX
Funny what WSJ decides to put behind a paywall and what they leave open.
Time to investigate credibility of these texters... or is that only when things don’t support the narrative?
Time to investigate credibility of these texters... or is that only when things don’t support the narrative?
Posted on 10/4/19 at 12:22 pm to bmy
Doesn’t really matter. Biden Got himself into this. Trump has every right to ask for an investigation.
Posted on 10/4/19 at 12:23 pm to Mickey Goldmill
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Watch. Everyone will bash and discredit an article from the Wall Street Journal, but Alex Jones or some other nut job tweets any off the wall “breaking news” and they flock to praise it together and how that tweet makes so much sense haha
Yep!
Posted on 10/4/19 at 12:25 pm to WorkinDawg
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There is not, nor will there ever be a formal impeachment
And the idiots who follow along in passing just won't grasp this- which is horrible for our country. They are the ones who would go along with anything....
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