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Trump admin has filed to have the census only count citizens and permanent residents

Posted on 9/9/26 at 8:13 pm
Posted by stout
Porte du Lafitte
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185356 posts
Posted on 9/9/26 at 8:13 pm
No more illegals or people on temp visas in the Census

Cali about to lose seats


This post was edited on 9/9/26 at 8:14 pm
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
Here
Member since Jan 2011
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Posted on 9/9/26 at 8:18 pm to
How is this even a thing to be discussed?

Posted by Figgy
CenCal
Member since May 2020
10613 posts
Posted on 9/9/26 at 8:18 pm to
It’ll be a lot more than California losing seats.
Posted by B747Tiger
Member since Jul 2026
1164 posts
Posted on 9/9/26 at 8:19 pm to
It’s fricking crazy that it’s not that way already
Posted by stout
Porte du Lafitte
Member since Sep 2006
185356 posts
Posted on 9/9/26 at 8:19 pm to
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How is this even a thing to be discussed?



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The U.S. Constitution’s 14th Amendment calls for political representatives to be apportioned based on “the whole number of persons in each State.”The administration’s effort to omit immigrants in the U.S. illegally and temporary immigrants from the U.S. census ?comes amid ?its wider crackdown on both legal and illegal immigration across the ?country.
Posted by Tarps99
Lafourche Parish
Member since Apr 2017
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Posted on 9/9/26 at 8:21 pm to
How about you count them as illegals and use the data to deport them and forbid the inclusion of those illegals in any official count for apportionment.

They should not count temporary residents like college students towards apportionment. I think during the recent redistricting in Louisiana, some Louisiana legislators wanted to carve out an LSU district for the legislature where there might be just a few thousand voters that vote in the district, but house thousands more as temporary residents as college students or professors that may vote in other parts of the state or even another state.
Posted by Hennigan
Member since Jan 2020
1507 posts
Posted on 9/9/26 at 8:21 pm to
This is so obvious. Same as rescinding birth citizenship even ex post facto.

Who can defend this?

Cheaters and thieves.
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
100384 posts
Posted on 9/9/26 at 8:22 pm to
I will finly be vindicated in CA
Posted by Bestbank Tiger
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Posted on 9/9/26 at 8:22 pm to
This shouldn't be even slightly controversial. Count people who actually live in the US, aka citizens or immigrants intending to become citizens.
Posted by FlySaint
FL Panhandle
Member since May 2018
2729 posts
Posted on 9/9/26 at 8:44 pm to
Illegal immigrants should be considered temporary since all of them are subject to deportation at any time.
Posted by BHTiger
Charleston
Member since Dec 2017
9654 posts
Posted on 9/9/26 at 9:06 pm to
Will it be Brett or Amy that side with Roberts and the 3 DEIs?

One it gets bounced around.
Posted by Aubie Spr96
lolwut?
Member since Dec 2009
44921 posts
Posted on 9/9/26 at 9:15 pm to
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How is this even a thing to be discussed?
Posted by BrookhavenBengal
Brookhaven, MS
Member since Oct 2007
3617 posts
Posted on 9/9/26 at 9:21 pm to
I voted for this.

The good news is that even if the effort fails, I’d imagine most illegals will not answer the door when the census takers come a’knocking.
Posted by captainFid
Never apologize to barbarism
Member since Dec 2014
11580 posts
Posted on 9/9/26 at 9:31 pm to
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Posted by SnacknGold06
Member since Oct 2025
202 posts
Posted on 9/9/26 at 9:48 pm to
This should be a duh from both sides of the aisle. When I read whole persons I think citizens only.
Posted by Lawyered
The Sip
Member since Oct 2016
39014 posts
Posted on 9/9/26 at 9:53 pm to
Should be the only way it has ever been done
Posted by TenWheelsForJesus
Member since Jan 2018
11950 posts
Posted on 9/9/26 at 11:41 pm to
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The U.S. Constitution’s 14th Amendment calls for political representatives to be apportioned based on “the whole number of persons in each State.”


There is no way the writers of the 14th intended for millions of illegals, many of whom are on welfare, to be represented in congress.

We should follow the law, but we shouldn't abandon our sanity to do it. Of course illegals shouldn't be counted towards congress.
Posted by Bigdawgb
Member since Oct 2023
4725 posts
Posted on 9/9/26 at 11:43 pm to
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How is this even a thing to be discussed?



At a really basic level it makes sense imo - imagine a beach town in the summer vs. winter. There are often 5-6 figures of additional, non-permanent residents driving cars, going to the doctor, getting into trouble that needs cops/firemen etc and you need to have resources budgeted appropriately to handle the surge

I see it personally working for a hospital - ECs have to treat folks who can't pay, can't speak English, may be homeless etc. That said, a bunch of non-citizens should have ABSOLUTELY NO BEARING on voting
This post was edited on 9/9/26 at 11:44 pm
Posted by Bronco11
Member since Jul 2022
1066 posts
Posted on 9/10/26 at 12:03 am to
The constitution is a little finiky on this. I believe is says all those residing in the US? Or something like that.

Of course, there's no way they could have imagined an illegal issue of immigration. So the actual context of the census will be difficult.

When the illegals started coming in heavy, a lot of people thought the Dems would send them to red states but what they did is send them to dark blues that had bad out migration numbers so they wouldn't lose house seats.

That's the long play. California alone has lost hundreds of thousands of legal residents and just replaced them with illegals to fuel their feudal society.
Posted by BrianKellysbuyout
Member since Nov 2025
2275 posts
Posted on 9/10/26 at 12:12 am to
It's not going to happen. It's been tried already.
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