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re: Thomas Massie Votes No on Save America Act
Posted on 7/16/26 at 6:46 am to SlowFlowPro
Posted on 7/16/26 at 6:46 am to SlowFlowPro
Massie also knows that the NDAA has always included funding for Israel and joint military cooperation all 14 years he’s been a congressman. So why now is it a problem?
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Posted on 7/16/26 at 6:49 am to DeBoar
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Massie also knows that the NDAA has always included funding for Israel and joint military cooperation all 14 years he’s been a congressman. So why now is it a problem?
Why do you think it's only a problem now?
U.S. Representative Massie Votes Against NDAA
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Today, Congressman Massie voted against the National Defense Authorization Act (NDAA) for 2014. The NDAA for 2012 established laws that authorized indefinite detention of citizens in the United States without trial. The NDAA for 2014 did not repeal or correct those provisions.
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The breakdown of his NDAA "no" votes from major annual roll calls includes:
NDAA for Fiscal Year 2013: Voted against passage (House roll call: 315-107).
NDAA for Fiscal Year 2014: Voted against passage because it failed to correct indefinite detention provisions.
NDAA for Fiscal Years 2015–2018: Consistently voted against final passage alongside a small coalition of libertarian-leaning Republicans and progressive Democrats.
NDAA for Fiscal Year 2019: Voted against passage (House roll call: 359-54).
NDAA for Fiscal Year 2021: Voted against passage (House roll call: 335-78).
NDAA for Fiscal Year 2022: Voted against passage (House roll call: 316-113).
NDAA for Fiscal Year 2024: Voted against passage (House roll call: 310-118)
Posted on 7/16/26 at 6:56 am to SlowFlowPro
You’re dancing. I was specifically talking about this item in the bill that has to deal with Israel.
You also just pointed out how he gets his conservative score by literally voting against everything that has to deal with war and spending even though it passes almost unanimously at the end.
You also just pointed out how he gets his conservative score by literally voting against everything that has to deal with war and spending even though it passes almost unanimously at the end.
Posted on 7/16/26 at 6:58 am to DeBoar
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You’re dancing
I'm not dancing.
This is my positions
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Massie has a long history of not supporting the NDAA, no?
I just showed my work.
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You also just pointed out how he gets his conservative score by literally voting against everything that has to deal with war and spending even though it passes almost unanimously at the end.
Actual supporters of freedom and small government are in the extreme minority, I agree, especially post-2016
Posted on 7/16/26 at 7:00 am to PorkSammich
The big bills matter... Not all the stupid little shite they vote on.
Posted on 7/16/26 at 7:02 am to Jjdoc
Some Massie supporter called up a talk radio host recently, espousing his support for all things Massie - listing his great accomplishments.
Wish the radio show host would call the listener back today, but I suspect they don't answer a phone before noon and are, in fact, a functional alcoholic.
Posted on 7/16/26 at 7:13 am to captainFid
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Some Massie supporter called up a talk radio host recently, espousing his support for all things Massie - listing his great accomplishments.
Wish the radio show host would call the listener back today, but I suspect they don't answer a phone before noon and are, in fact, a functional alcoholic.
I imagine anyone who truly supports Massie knows his history with the NDAA
Posted on 7/16/26 at 7:40 am to Jjdoc
Glad he is gone real soon
Posted on 7/16/26 at 7:55 am to DeBoar
quote:The NDAA is not even close to being the same thing as these agreements and MOU’s that we have with other countries. If it was, there would be no need for it.
We have similar agreements with every nato nation as well.
The fusion of intelligence programs make Israel an internal partner inside the MIC, and they will have a specific agent or advocate advising Israel’s needs and they will have unprecedented access to U.S. technology and intelligence, including Ai. Once passed, the Presidential powers of restricting its reach will be significantly limited.
The hate for Massie is causing a blindness to the incredible concession of power, dangerous access to intelligence, and potential involvement in Israel’s conflicts that the NDAA represents.
Posted on 7/16/26 at 8:53 am to Brosef Stalin
quote:Combining the two is the D.C. way of providing cover for themselves. They put a popular piece of legislation in a bill that typically includes a ton of pork and other shite sandwiches. The same people that would normally decry the shite in the NDAA will pivot and now say that it is not a big deal if the Save Act can be passed.
Here's what's in the bill he voted against that the desperate Republicans attached a new save America act
Presenting them as stand-alone bills would separate the wheat from the chaff and they know this.
Posted on 7/16/26 at 9:26 am to Pragmatist2025
quote:And they've been doing it for generations. And people don't ever take them to task for it.
Combining the two is the D.C. way of providing cover for themselves. They put a popular piece of legislation in a bill that typically includes a ton of pork and other shite sandwiches.
And now, if you don't want Israel all the way up the arse of our military, you SUPPORT VOTER FRAUD REEEEEE!!!!
And retards here eat it up.
Posted on 7/16/26 at 9:30 am to SDVTiger
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So you are defending and idiot who voted
And you are exposing yourself as well?
Posted on 7/16/26 at 9:36 am to Gus007
Are you exposing yourself?
Posted on 7/16/26 at 9:37 am to Jjdoc
Mitch loves Massie.
Posted on 7/16/26 at 9:58 am to i am dan
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The big bills matter... Not all the stupid little shite they vote on.
It all matters.
Posted on 7/16/26 at 10:31 am to Jjdoc
Of course he did. He has no actual principals other than butthurt feels and such.
Posted on 7/16/26 at 10:56 am to SlowFlowPro
quote:Obviously, yes.
Massie has a long history of not supporting the NDAA, no?
It's completely dishonest to say this is a no vote on the SAVE act. It's a no vote on the NDAA which contains MUCH mroe than just the SAVE act.
I'm old enough to remember when "MAGA" folks supported "clean bills" for things. Now they support the equivalent of including Obamacare in the defense funding bill.
Posted on 7/16/26 at 11:12 am to PorkSammich
Did Massie transition? He looks like a manly man now
Posted on 7/16/26 at 11:30 am to Brosef Stalin
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e voted yes when it was a standalone bill and passed the House. If you want to be mad at anyone, be mad at Thune for not putting it up for a vote in the Senate. I don't know why the MDS crew thinks attaching it to this defense bill is gonna help it pass the Senate.
IIRC, this is how the board treated Rubio back in the day, yet now they want him to be the next President. Zero depth.
Posted on 7/16/26 at 11:48 am to Taxing Authority
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It's completely dishonest to say this is a no vote on the SAVE act.
They know and they don't care, which is why no one outside their bubble respects them.
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I'm old enough to remember when "MAGA" folks supported "clean bills" for things.
Anyone over the age of two would also be old enough to remember this.
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