re: This call for Vance to invoke the 25th

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It won't happen. But the fact that there is even a discussion about it tells you how most people think things are going.

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ONE clearly deranged “journalist” is “discussing” it.

Get back to me when Trump wanders off with the Easter Bunny and has to be guided back.

THAT was the time to invoke the 25th. And it wasn’t.

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Would honestly explain the decision to unilaterally jump into a war without congressional buy-in.

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Has your mental capacity been checked?

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Every president since WW2 ended has done this

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I don't know that every US President has initiated foreign conflicts without congressional approval since WWII, but it certainly isn't unheard of.

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Truman and Eisenhower - Korea
Johnson - Vietnam
Nixon - Vietnam and Cambodia
Ford - Vietnam and Cambodia
Reagan - Grenada
Bush 1 - Panama, desert storm
Clinton - Yugoslavia
Bush 2 - WOT, Iraq
Obama - Libya

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In reality, US Presidents have engaged our military into initiating action without direct congressional approval 12 times (from what I understand).

1) McKinley - Philippines - 1899-1902

2) Truman - Korea - 1950 - 1953 - (Truman initiated...they were already engaged by the time Eisenhower took over)

3) Johnson - Vietnam - 1964-1973 (while Kennedy had "advisors", the US did not engage in military conflict until Johnson escalated US involvement. There were already troops engaged in conflict when Nixon took over).

4) Nixon - Cambodia - 1969-1973 - Nixon ordered bombing campaigns over Cambodia to disrupt Vietnamese supplies and to target Communist Hubs. This is what prompted the War Powers Resolution of 1973, which was overridden by congressional veto.

5) Reagan - Grenada - 1983 - Invasion of Grenada after a coup. Troops were withdrawn after Congress applied the War Powers Resolution.

6) G HW Bush - Panama - 1989 - Invasion of Panama to overthrow Noriega (indicted in US for drug trafficking).

7) Clinton - Yugoslavia - 1999 - US led bombing campaign against Yugoslav Army to stop Ethnic Cleansing of Albanians. War Powers Lawsuit filed by House Members (dismissed).

8) Obama - Lybia - 2011- US participated in strikes led by NATO forces against Lybia, authorized under UN Security Council resolution. US House members filed suit attempting to block further military action.

9a) Biden - Yemen - 2023 - While strikes were conducted against Yemen military targets after Yemen targeted commercial ships after Israel's invasion of Gaza.

9b) Trump - Yemen - 2025 - Resumption of strikes conducted against Houthis without congressional approval after a 2-year hiatus.

10) Trump - Iran - 2025 - Strikes on Iranian Nuclear facilities in Operation Midnight Hammer.

11) Trump - Venezuela - 2026 - Strikes in Venezuela to depose Maduro.

12) Trump - Iran - 2026 - Strikes against Iranian underground enriched uranium facility, and continued to fight under the current conflict.

In your list:

...in January '91, Congress authorized Military Use of Force against Iraq, but that was after he had initiated significant US action in Iraq...but eventually, congressional approval was sought and provided.

...after the 9/11 attacks, Congress granted GW Bush authority for the War on Terror through an authorized use of Military force.

...in 2002, Congress approved a resolution for an authorized use of military force against Iraq

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I would actually support this if there is evidence Trump’s mental capacity is diminished, however slight.

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His mental capacity is definitely not diminished.

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I think Vance has basic human decorum though… he won’t say “Good!” when a political opponent passes

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Decorum went out the fricking window a long time ago. Mueller tried to take Trump and his entire family down with a completely bullshite story. They tried to assassinate him twice that we know of. I don't really care about Trump's words offending people at this point.


Btw, Robert Mueller wasn't a "political opponent." He was the fricking director of the FBI.

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They tried to assassinate him twice that we know of.

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Three public assassination attempts were made on him and there are god knows how many behind the scenes. The security at Mar A Lago right now is unlike anything I've personally seen in my life which spoke volumes to me that there have been a lot more unreported attempts on him than reported to the public. I honestly feel sorry for his entire family and cabinet & their family seeing how protected all of them are right now. It takes an 1.5 hrs to get through security right now over there. They will check your entire car twice, run dogs through, check IDs, run your car through a tent inspection, metal detectors, wands, cell phone surveillance, etc. It is insane just to get onto the property.

This supposed conservative wants Vance to name Dem senator Chris Murphy as VP This guy is a kook.

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It would be unprecedented is an actual invocation of the 25th Amendment against a sitting president by their own vice president and cabinet. That threshold has never been crossed in U.S. history.

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The best irony is that this is essentially the ONE job a Veep actually has...and Kamala not only shirked it in the one circumstance it was likely the most applicable, but she actively sought to do the opposite.

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I would actually support this if there is evidence Trump’s mental capacity is diminished, however slight.

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Hmmm? Did you support it when Biden was pretending to be in charge?


You guys have set a standard so low, even Kamala or "Scum" couldn't be booted out.