re: The "they will just use a ladder" wall arguement

Regressives are retarded. Don't bother using logic on them.

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Is that really a valid idea?

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So, you don't know what a cost-benefit analysis is either.

You actually want the tax payers to BORROW money to build a structure that could decrease the GDP?

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it's still relative to the US citizen

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No, it isn't.

Regardless of the citizens' productivity, it doesn't make economic sense to deport a worker who contributes $100 in value for every $90 in cost - especially if you're going to have to finance the expense of deporting him/keeping him out.

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I'm just going to guess the average citizen contributes more, and costs less.

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I guess if not, then you would propose deporting all the US citizens?

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Post a link of said rope.

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LINK
2.3oz per meter, which is 2.3oz / 3.28ft = 0.7oz/ft = 70oz or 4.38 pounds per 100 feet.

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I think you clarified you can't be alone if you are carrying all of that shite to the border.

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Again, bow, arrow, small backpack for rope, string, gloves, etc. Very light.

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Hmm, so you are going to scale the wall with a rope with knots on it, only secured on 1 side?

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For the, like, 5th time now, with a slat wall you have access to both ends of the rope from either side. Your buddy can hold one end of the rope while you climb up, then he can hold the other end while you climb down. Then you do the same for him from the other side. This is really, really basic.

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So the wall will substantially slow down the invaders?

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invaders...


But of course it would slow them down! And I haven't seen anyone seriously try to argue otherwise. What I am arguing against is the idiot OP who couldn't imagine a method of getting up and down a wall without throwing babies off the top. It's just ridiculous, and it's ridiculously easy to get up and down the other side safely.

Someone please tell me, if these cartels are not worried about the wall at all, why the coyotes have been telling people that the time is now or never because a wall is coming?

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Your big rock will have to weigh at least 250 lbs.

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Man you're more dense than a rock. If you'd at least make an attempt to use your brain, you would understand by now that "the rock" would just be a material that might be found along the border so it wouldn't have to be hauled, to help a SINGLE PERSON tie down one end of a rope. That was assuming a NON-slatted wall and a ladder to get up. The rock was a suggestion to OP who couldn't figure out what to tie off his descent rope to in order to get down the other side. Do you understand now? If not I can try again.

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This isn't mountain climbing.

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You're right, it's much easier.

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You are suggesting a rope with knots to go over the wall.

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The part that goes over the wall doesn't need knots.

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This rope will need to be very heavy.

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It's actually very, very light. See the link above.

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Think of rappelling ropes from helicopters the special forces use.

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Have you ever climbed just a rope? It's not easy. Now take the every day malnourished south american, you think they can climb 30' vertically without a problem?

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Have you ever used your brain? A straight rope is extremely difficult to climb, even with a wall for footing. A knotted rope is easier. A rope with hand/foot loops tied in it is much, much easier.

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Or do you think, maybe the prospect of having to scale a wall might be a deterrent?

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Of course it's a deterrent. But what's that got to do with OP talking about throwing babies off the top?

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No, it doesn't.

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It does.

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HOw many 30-40' slatted walls have you climbed over?

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This wall is growing by the minute! The answer, of course, is none. But I've never had to decide between that and the alternative of living in a shithole. I can guarantee that scaling a slat wall would be one of the easiest obstacles some of these people have to deal with.

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2.3oz per meter, which is 2.3oz / 3.28ft = 0.7oz/ft = 70oz or 4.38 pounds per 100 feet.

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And you expect south americans to have this rope at the ready?

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Again, bow, arrow, small backpack for rope, string, gloves, etc. Very light.

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Food, water....big rock.

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Your buddy can hold one end of the rope while you climb up

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That's pretty unstable. As stupid as your rock idea was, it's more stable than this.

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then he can hold the other end while you climb down.

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You can't reasonably climb a rope that is not secured at 2 anchorage points.

What are the anchorage points for the ascent?
What are the anchorage points for the descent?

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invaders..

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What do you call people invading your country?

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But of course it would slow them down! And I haven't seen anyone seriously try to argue otherwise.

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So then you would admit that a wall is a very big impediment to crossing into the country, and would deter many would be illegals, correct?

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It's just ridiculous, and it's ridiculously easy to get up and down the other side safely.

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You have not proven that getting up and down a wall is relatively easy, unless you are an experienced climber. 99.9% of the boarder crossers are not experienced climbers, are not physically fit, are not all men. So try again.

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are that it's too expensive based on how effective it will be, with the effectiveness calling into question the fact that it won't fully surround the country.

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we are not surrounded by 3rd world shitholes are we? idiot

the wall also creates bottlenecks where more BP can be to nail them in open areas. even a partial wall helps.

u libtards are too fn stupid to even discuss issues with. you know how much illegals are costing this country?

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You talk with coyotes often?

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It's called Google.

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So when did all of these poor south americans become expert knotsmen?

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How do you accomplish anything in your daily life if you think you have to be an expert to tie a fricking knot? I guess that explains a lot, actually.

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your big rock.

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You and that rock. You keep acting as if I'm dumb for suggesting one find a nearby rock to tie a rope to in the absence of any trees or other way to secure a rope to a non-slatted wall. Why? Would you prefer to haul around an earth anchor? "But where will these poor mexicans get one of those?" So I say use a goddamned rock, which are free and plentiful in many areas along the border, and you just can't get over it. As if tying a rope to a rock is just the funniest thing you've ever heard. A rock! Absurd!

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How do you plan on securing the rope to that top beam?

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I've lost count of how many times I've repeated this, but here goes again. The rope goes over the beam and both ends reach the ground. You grab one end, I grab the other. Done. Rope secured.

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I guess you didn't see the migrant caravan. Also, majority of the invaders are south american.

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So how many pounds of food and water would you guess they were carrying? And you're worried about a few pounds of rope that could get them ALL over a wall?

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Do you know how simple it is to make a rope ladder out of climbing rope?

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Does your average South American?

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I'll take that to mean that no, you don't. Fortunately, though, the rest of the world is actually intelligent enough to manage to tie a fricking knot.

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Again, send me a link to this rope.

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See above. It is very common rope, actually made specifically for climbing things! They even make tiny backpacks specifically for carrying these ropes! They are plentiful in all corners of the world. I bet even a South American could afford one.