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re: The "they will just use a ladder" wall arguement
Posted on 1/4/19 at 11:09 am to russellvillehog
Posted on 1/4/19 at 11:09 am to russellvillehog
Detect immigrants with drones or sensors, then send border patrol to push the ladder down a la Lord of the Rings: The Two Towers, place it on PPV and profit.
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Posted on 1/4/19 at 11:13 am to Korkstand
quote:
then you can shoot an arrow with fishing line over it. Once the arrow is on the other side, pull the fishing line such that the arrow dangles and you can grab it.Tie the fishing line to a rope and pull the rope over the top with the fishing line. Now you have a rope for scaling up and down. Either bring a buddy to help hold down the loose end while you're climbing, or put a grappling hook at both ends of the rope
No, i meant use your analytical skills to solve this problem in a practical sense from the point of an illegal trying to cross the border.
These "poor" immigrants don't have bows, weighted ropes, grappling hooks, and they aren't Adam West's batman. They are not experienced climbers nor do they have experience rappelling mountains, much less smooth steel sheets. So try again, in the real world.
And FWIW, you haven't solved the problem of getting down, unless you are fastening suction cups to your feet to walk down.
ETA: Korkstands illegal immigrants scaling the wall.
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This post was edited on 1/4/19 at 11:16 am
Posted on 1/4/19 at 11:15 am to Jyrdis
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Detect immigrants with drones or sensors, then send border patrol to push the ladder down a la Lord of the Rings: The Two Towers, place it on PPV and profit.
Or just put spikes, or anything else extremely unpleasant on the U.S. side of the wall. You might get over, but you'll wish you hadn't!
Posted on 1/4/19 at 11:16 am to WildTchoupitoulas
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The ladder market in Mexico is about to boom. They will be on sale within sight of the wall.
The trick is that you tie a rope to the top step of the ladder and fling it over to the other side, the ladder sales man holds down the Mexican side while you and your family go over the top. Then the ladder salesman brings the ladder back to the market and 'sells' it to the next desperate group. Wash, rinse, repeat.
Lazy white Americans have no ingenuity left anymore. Any motivated latino could figure out how to get over a wall.
Except the border patrol will wait to apprehend them once the motion detectors show them in range of the wall. INGENUITY!
Posted on 1/4/19 at 11:18 am to CAD703X
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ussellvillehog
a LARGE charge of electricity running through the steel will solve this PERMANENTLY.
Fify
Posted on 1/4/19 at 11:18 am to BugAC
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No, i meant use your analytical skills to solve this problem in a practical sense from the point of an illegal trying to cross the border.
These "poor" immigrants don't have bows, weighted ropes, grappling hooks, and they aren't Adam West's batman. They are not experienced climbers nor do they have experience rappelling mountains, much less smooth steel sheets. So try again, in the real world.
And FWIW, you haven't solved the problem of getting down, unless you are fastening suction cups to your feet to walk down.
ETA: Korkstands illegal immigrants scaling the wall.
LOL!! Don't you know Juan and Raoul will just carry a hang glider, parachute, or maybe just a big-arse umbrella and float down? Every illegal I've ever met was on par with MacGyver and James Bond!
Posted on 1/4/19 at 11:21 am to russellvillehog
quote:Drax, is that you?
you would grab hold of the rope, and it would slide down the pole with you. You still fall and break bones.
Posted on 1/4/19 at 11:23 am to therick711
In all seriousness, I defer to the Border Patrol and their recommendations. Just yesterday, a Border Patrol commander stated that simple concertina wire that was setup temporarily was effective at reducing mass incursions. He said barriers work and was fully behind building a wall.
Posted on 1/4/19 at 11:23 am to greygoose
quote:Sounds easier than trying to live the rest of your life undetected and possibly acquiring fake documentation to receive government handouts.
So, let me get this straight. Pablo is going to get a 30-50ft ladder from someone, put it up against the wall, (sensors would be activated at that point), climb the ladder, attached a 50ft rope securely to a vertical slat of steel, repel down, then run like Hell while Border Patrol is pursuing in a vehicle?
quote:I don't know, do you?
How many do you think will be successful? How many do you think will be successful without any type of barrier?
Posted on 1/4/19 at 11:24 am to greygoose
Because barriers work. It is why every other nation uses them. It is why Mexico is building a southern wall. Only people here seem to have difficulty grasping the efficacy of barriers.
Posted on 1/4/19 at 11:25 am to Korkstand
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Sounds easier than trying to live the rest of your life undetected and possibly acquiring fake documentation to receive government handouts.
Fact of the matter, is that millions are living undetected, and/or are living in sanctuary cities that do not enforce immigration laws and actually encourage illegal immigration. So you are completely wrong, considering millions of illegals are doing exactly what you find so hard to do.
quote:
I don't know, do you?
Your analytics is slipping.
This post was edited on 1/4/19 at 11:26 am
Posted on 1/4/19 at 11:25 am to Korkstand
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I don't know, do you?
Looking at our military bases in conflict zones, I would say that pareto effectiveness would be easy to achieve.
Posted on 1/4/19 at 11:26 am to therick711
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Except the border patrol will wait to apprehend them once the motion detectors show them in range of the wall. INGENUITY!
If you need motion detectors to apprehend border crossers, why do you need a wall? Just set up sensors, and when they go off, send in the patrol. Money = saved.
Posted on 1/4/19 at 11:27 am to WildTchoupitoulas
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If you need motion detectors to apprehend border crossers, why do you need a wall? Just set up sensors, and when they go off, send in the patrol. Money = saved.
We already use them. Why not integrate them with the wall to catch the few that will still attempt with the wall in place? Also, it is pretty obvious that it is easier to stop one at a time than thousands en masse. This isn't that difficult.
This post was edited on 1/4/19 at 11:28 am
Posted on 1/4/19 at 11:28 am to russellvillehog
The migrants that reached the border this past time hitchhiked much of the way. Are you saying that nobody in Mexico has a truck and a ladder that they can bring to the border?
Posted on 1/4/19 at 11:28 am to cahoots
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The migrants that reached the border this past time hitchhiked much of the way. Are you saying that nobody in Mexico has a truck and a ladder that they can bring to the border?
No, we're saying the wall makes it difficult for groups as large as hundreds to do it simultaneously. It will also deter a great many from trying.
Posted on 1/4/19 at 11:29 am to WildTchoupitoulas
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If you need motion detectors to apprehend border crossers, why do you need a wall? Just set up sensors, and when they go off, send in the patrol.
Border wall
No Border wall
Now i don't want to tax that brain of yours too much, but which of these 2 scenarios would it be faster to escape the sensors?
You are either stupid, or you have no real argument against the wall. Which is it?
Posted on 1/4/19 at 11:30 am to cahoots
quote:maybe they have an trebuchet laying around, it would be very effective for use with the chirren they purchased along the way.
Are you saying that nobody in Mexico has a truck and a ladder that they can bring to the border?
Posted on 1/4/19 at 11:31 am to Jbird
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maybe they have an trebuchet laying around, it would be very effective for use with the chirren they purchased along the way.
Do you even ballista, bro?
This post was edited on 1/4/19 at 11:32 am
Posted on 1/4/19 at 11:31 am to therick711
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No, we're saying the wall makes it difficult for groups as large as hundreds to do it simultaneously. It will also deter a great many from trying.
The OP is suggesting that people are going to drag ladders through the desert, as if that’s the only option. Read it
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