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re: The Surprising Origins of Critical Race Theory

Posted on 8/30/21 at 4:08 am to
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
59240 posts
Posted on 8/30/21 at 4:08 am to
What’s evident, professor, is that you’re serving up the usual conservatard tripe, and it tastes awful, as it always has.

I love that you idiots sit here and circle jerk as if you’re propounding some new and insightful thoughts.

Maybe if you yell loudly enough, progs will realize that they’re the real Nazis! Keep trying. It hasn’t worked the countless other times that you’ve done it, but maybe it will this time.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
124322 posts
Posted on 8/30/21 at 4:30 am to
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progs will realize that they’re the real Nazis!
You are missing the point.

Critical Theory is reflective assessment using historically non-contemporary values manipulated to undermine present endpoints. It doesn't necessarily have anything to do with race.

Rather CT is a revisionist tool targeting some historical event, population, system, etc. It's used to facilitate critique of the target, and assign to that target highly disproportionate blame for contemporary woe.

With Marx the target was Capitalism.
With Nazis the target was the Jewish Population.
With CRT the target is Caucasians.

CT in and of itself is not attached to a political philosophy. Though, as CT is inherently anti-intellectual, its implementation or social incorporation is autocratically dependent.


Posted by Lima Whiskey
Member since Apr 2013
19458 posts
Posted on 8/30/21 at 6:09 am to
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Nazism and Communism are always presented as polar opposites


The Nazis were a right wing conservative reaction to Communism.
Posted by Strannix
District 11
Member since Dec 2012
49093 posts
Posted on 8/30/21 at 6:11 am to
Muh Nazis!!

That'll show em Boomers

SAD
Posted by Lima Whiskey
Member since Apr 2013
19458 posts
Posted on 8/30/21 at 6:19 am to
The “you’re the the real nazis” argument is strange, what’s the point of it it, and it’s an illiterate one.

It also does nothing. Leads to nothing. Accomplishes nothing.
This post was edited on 8/30/21 at 6:26 am
Posted by ChineseBandit58
Pearland, TX
Member since Aug 2005
42946 posts
Posted on 8/30/21 at 6:25 am to
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Critical Theory is reflective assessment using historically non-contemporary values manipulated to undermine present endpoints


I haver never understood the choice of words to describe their issue.

what does "critical" have to do with it??

what does "theory" have to do with it??

What, in fact, is "it?"

Total random word salad to me - cannot even isolate the platitude or issue being promoted = or denigrated
Posted by JJJimmyJimJames
Southern States
Member since May 2020
18496 posts
Posted on 8/30/21 at 6:43 am to
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The Nazis were a right wing conservative reaction to Communism.

All actions and reactions from among these two ideologies (and the "Democrat"-marxists operating in the USA today) can easily be separated from the techniques and tools they used (and today use) to make those actions/reactions..

Point is, todays violent election stealing, treacherous DemXcrats are coming from a communist composition with Nazi tricks they are using.

Posted by Barabbas
Member since Apr 2021
58 posts
Posted on 8/30/21 at 8:01 am to
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The Nazis were a right wing conservative reaction to Communism.


The Nazi's were a leftist authoritarian socialist movement in reaction to Communism. I would argue both Nazism and Communism were competing authoritarian left wing movements. They immediately created a powerful centralized authoritarian state, socialized all capital, eliminated religion, had racial pogroms and created racial strife, perpetrated genocide, and acted just like all communists/socialist societies do. Or you can keep saying the National Socialist German Worker's Party has ANYTHING to do with modern right wing in America (it doesn't). Enough with that historical revisionism already. Nazism has absolutely nothing in common with today's American right, which is largely religious libertarian anti-authoritarian anti-State and just wants to be left alone; the opposite of Nazism. It has a ton in common with the modern left, however, and Communist states too as a matter of fact. Socialist Workers Party, right in the F'ing name. Words have meaning
This post was edited on 8/30/21 at 8:04 am
Posted by KingGator81
Member since Oct 2013
648 posts
Posted on 8/30/21 at 8:04 am to
Jesus Christ you are dumb.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
111700 posts
Posted on 8/30/21 at 8:05 am to
I haven’t seen you add anything to the board in the way of an idea in forever.
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
59240 posts
Posted on 8/30/21 at 8:14 am to
Oh no. I'm sorry.

Do you think the OP was adding something to the board by way of an idea? Equating everything the right hates with the Nazis isn't exactly an earth shattering insight. Oh, yeah, we also got the novel idea in this thread that the Nazis were socialists. Wow. I mean, that wasn't even a new accusation when Jonah Goldberg wrote a book about in 2008.
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
59240 posts
Posted on 8/30/21 at 8:14 am to
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Jesus Christ you are dumb.


How do you know I'm dumb?
Posted by oogabooga68
Member since Nov 2018
27194 posts
Posted on 8/30/21 at 9:13 am to
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Equating everything the right hates with the Nazis isn't exactly an earth shattering insight.


Perhaps you should complain to your buddies on the Left and politely ask that they stop making it so easy to do....I mean, you gotta admit, they're a month or so away from making their enemies wear little gold stars on their clothing.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
262221 posts
Posted on 8/30/21 at 9:14 am to
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I haven’t seen you add anything to the board in the way of an idea in forever.


He's simply a drive by poster.
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
36366 posts
Posted on 8/30/21 at 9:15 am to
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A version of CT was later used by Hitler to blame all Jews for all woes (though its proponents would vigorously deny that)


I don't think this is correct.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
262221 posts
Posted on 8/30/21 at 9:20 am to
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The National Socialists, like the Marxian Frankfurt School leaders, dedicated themselves to fighting racial oppression


Just a different kind.

CRt was started in law school in the 80's, but does spring from critical theory. All stems from the Frankfurt group and the Marxists associated with it.
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
59240 posts
Posted on 8/30/21 at 9:23 am to
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Perhaps you should complain to your buddies on the Left and politely ask that they stop making it so easy to do....I mean, you gotta admit, they're a month or so away from making their enemies wear little gold stars on their clothing.


I don't have any buddies on the left. The fact remains that in this battle of who can yell "Nazi" the loudest, the left wins. We can discuss why that is, I have my own theories, but regardless, they win. It makes me wonder why so many on the Right continue to engage.
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
59240 posts
Posted on 8/30/21 at 9:23 am to
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He's simply a drive by poster.


Says the grumpy old man. Thanks for your insight, Roger.
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
36366 posts
Posted on 8/30/21 at 9:24 am to
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The Nazis were a right wing conservative reaction to Communism.



They were, but that doesn't really illustrate the complicated intellectual landscape of continental Europe was during the Fin de Siècle. Arguably two of the most influential philosophers of the pre-war period, Heidegger and Schmitt, were regarded as part of the Conservative Revolution in Weimar Germany, and they influenced many later philosophers who would be regarded as left-wing. Heidegger is arguably the biggest influence on philosophers such as Arendt and Derrida, and you can even see the influence of Schmitt on Antonio Negri, who is among the last major Marxist theorists.

Posted by dgnx6
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
69060 posts
Posted on 8/30/21 at 9:28 am to
Found the national socialist of td.



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