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re: The Surprising Origins of Critical Race Theory
Posted on 8/30/21 at 10:33 am to IslandBuckeye
Posted on 8/30/21 at 10:33 am to IslandBuckeye
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The origins of Critical Theory and applicability to current versions: CRT and Critical Pedagogy. Under these schools of thought, nothing good will happen. The history of this issue is described above. Researching the topic a bit on your own will not happen because you are an angry young person with a closed mind and short on life experience. You typify many of your peers: arrogant and ignorant.
Oh geez. I know the origins. I disagreed with the OP's characterization of those origins. I'm also not that young, so you can dispense with your wisdom of the elders routine.
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Posted on 8/30/21 at 10:35 am to crazy4lsu
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I broadly agree that fascism was reactionary, but to liberalism and capitalism as well. In the context of the OP, the link from CRT to CT to Fascism isn't at all clear, because it would also include thinkers generally regarded as conservatives.
You're going to cause cognitive dissonance with respect to many in this thread.
Posted on 8/30/21 at 10:50 am to Mo Jeaux
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Mo Jeaux
You need to stop defending Democrats unless you are one.
Did you see what happened last year, the burning and looting?
Biden said it wasn't a big deal and Kamala helped set up a bail fund for the losers and "81" million POS voted for that.
Stop being nice and open your eyes.
Democrats are worthless trash.
Posted on 8/30/21 at 10:55 am to Lima Whiskey
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You’re not saying anything Crazy
The OP made a link between CRT to CT to the Frankfurt School. You suggested that Nazism was a reaction to communism. I agreed, and added that the philosophical links between who influenced who during that specific time period is complicated, because who influenced who wasn't strict along 'right-left' lines, thus making a direct link between Fascism and CRT based on spurious associations a very complicated argument.
The problem with linking things that are distinctly American, like critical race theory, to other historical events tangentially related to the intellectual tradition that developed in America, is that the source work for things like CRT predates things the Frankfurt School. They might include frameworks by critical theorists, but any historical work done on race in the US almost singularly derives from WEB DuBois.
This post was edited on 8/30/21 at 10:56 am
Posted on 8/30/21 at 10:56 am to 93and99
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You need to stop defending Democrats unless you are one.
I generally don't defend many, if any, on the modern left. I just harbor some animosity for quite a few on the modern right (because they're enablers), which tends to ruffle some feathers on this Board (hence the leftist accusations when in reality, I'm only slightly to the left of Gabriele D'Annunzio).
Posted on 8/30/21 at 11:05 am to Mo Jeaux
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. I disagreed with the OP's characterization of those origins
The far right (socialist workers party) and the far left (commies) meet at some point and become the same thing. There is no doubt Critical Theory was a reaction to the Nazis.
Posted on 8/30/21 at 11:16 am to RogerTheShrubber
quote:Truth
CRT is not a real "thing" as its simply a manufactured fairy tale to support socialism.
CRT is anti scientific, anti fact. Its a fabricated sociology to explain a myth.
It is racial demagoguery that Democrats long ago would reject, but now embrace
like the 47 genders;
and global warmist nonsense
They are being led by infiltrated marxists to support nonsense.
Which brings me to an essentially untreated thread her - this "bommer" bullshite
a. It is just another term of divisivess. Meauxjeaux continues to suck up to the tyrants
b. Much philosophy emanates from people born between 1940, and especially the tail end of boomers from 52 to about 65.
but rest assured there is no solidly monolithic philosophical unity or one characteristic. There are shades of many. What is your main mistake beyond that is underestimating the serious nature of the world in which boomers grew up..
There was no internet, no practiced meaninglessness of absurd levels of sarcasm, which frankly seems to be a later development.
We carried on relationship in written letters. We wrote theses, and academic papers with the seriousness of academic rigor and manual interpretation through the entire process.
Later generations, if they can be so described as monolithic lack this seriousness and there seems to be a more nihilistic and detached from the seriousness that preceded them - the same as the boomer generation could be seen as less serious than previous generations.
Generally, you do yourself a disservice if you insist on labeling others as monolithic and will only suffer from such a stance.
CRT is just another illustration of this. The adherents create a world in which millennials brave new meaninglessness is a fertile breeding ground for the requests to follow tyrants and their tyranny. Though not monolithic, the millennials fall right into line.
It is dangerous to people because it is wrong. It has almost nothing to do with the millennial labels as they attempt to create a new video game of it all.
NOT monolithic, but not too far off.
Posted on 8/30/21 at 11:18 am to Mo Jeaux
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Oh geez. I know the origins. I disagreed with the OP's characterization of those origins. I'm also not that young, so you can dispense with your wisdom of the elders routine.
And I am not that old. Just done a lot of interesting things and have known a lot of smart people. I like to learn. You like to be a contrarian. One of these people will lead a happier, more fruitful, and satisfying life.
Sorry for your disadvantages. You can still claim your victim card and call me an oppressor. Hooray for you.
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I'm also not that young
Perhaps some day you will quit acting like it.
Posted on 8/30/21 at 11:19 am to JJJimmyJimJames
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It is racial demagoguery that Democrats long ago would reject, but now embrace
Its a means to an end. Socialism or communism.
Its simply a means to grab power from the current power brokers. "The issue is never the issue, the issue is always the revolution."
This post was edited on 8/30/21 at 11:21 am
Posted on 8/30/21 at 11:21 am to Mo Jeaux
quote:You are clearlyy expressing leftism and its related meaningless stances..
I generally don't defend many, if any, on the modern left. I just harbor some animosity for quite a few on the modern right (because they're enablers), which tends to ruffle some feathers on this Board
Amazing comment too in that the ruffled feathers are all yours in your leftist stance and continual battle against conservatives.
You need to stop your substance abuse habits, or whatever it is that causes your issues - they make you undecipherable, even to yourself.
Posted on 8/30/21 at 11:33 am to crazy4lsu
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They might include frameworks by critical theorists, but any historical work done on race in the US almost singularly derives from WEB DuBois.
Jesus Christ
Posted on 8/30/21 at 11:35 am to Mo Jeaux
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Do you think the OP was adding something to the board by way of an idea?
It was at least an idea. It’s very simplistic and probably only useful as a bumper sticker analogy.
So it’s only 3000 times more useful than your average post.
Posted on 8/30/21 at 11:37 am to Lima Whiskey
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This doesn’t say anything. You’re not making an argument.
Crazy has an affinity for critical theory. He doesn’t let it out in the open. And when CRT gets criticized he waxes eloquent on how no one here really understands its nuances.
Posted on 8/30/21 at 11:37 am to the808bass
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So it’s only 3000 times more useful than your average post.
My God, you're such a bitch sometimes.
Posted on 8/30/21 at 11:38 am to the808bass
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Crazy has an affinity for critical theory.
Bingo. Its a blind spot for him
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And when CRT gets criticized he waxes eloquent on how no one here really understands its nuances.
That's his MO.
This post was edited on 8/30/21 at 11:41 am
Posted on 8/30/21 at 11:39 am to Mo Jeaux
You don’t have to prove my point with every successive post.
Posted on 8/30/21 at 11:59 am to crazy4lsu
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any historical work done on race in the US almost singularly derives from WEB DuBois.
No.Posted on 8/30/21 at 12:01 pm to the808bass
quote:Every time.
And when CRT gets criticized he waxes eloquent on how no one here really understands its nuances.
It's just like how socialists always want to argue over the definition of what is/isn't socialism -- rather than argue the merits/detriments of it. Total distraction move.
Posted on 8/30/21 at 12:04 pm to Taxing Authority
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It's just like how socialists always want to argue over the definition of what is/isn't socialism -- rather than argue the merits/detriments of it. Total distraction move.
Yep, socialists believe changing language will allow more accommodation. That only works on very weak minded people, like socialists.
Posted on 8/30/21 at 12:22 pm to the808bass
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Jesus Christ
Lol.
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