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re: The Surprising Origins of Critical Race Theory

Posted on 8/30/21 at 10:04 am to
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
262284 posts
Posted on 8/30/21 at 10:04 am to
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FOR "just leaving CRT


He has no clue what it means. He's just been taught to support it.

You'll never get a true answer out of him.
Posted by Lima Whiskey
Member since Apr 2013
19464 posts
Posted on 8/30/21 at 10:05 am to
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The Nazi's were a leftist authoritarian socialist movement in reaction to Communism. I would argue both Nazism and Communism were competing authoritarian left wing movements. They immediately created a powerful centralized authoritarian state, socialized all capital, eliminated religion, had racial pogroms and created racial strife, perpetrated genocide, and acted just like all communists/socialist societies do. Or you can keep saying the National Socialist German Worker's Party has ANYTHING to do with modern right wing in America (it doesn't). Enough with that historical revisionism already. Nazism has absolutely nothing in common with today's American right, which is largely religious libertarian anti-authoritarian anti-State and just wants to be left alone; the opposite of Nazism. It has a ton in common with the modern left, however, and Communist states too as a matter of fact. Socialist Workers Party, right in the F'ing name. Words have meaning


No.
This post was edited on 8/30/21 at 10:06 am
Posted by IslandBuckeye
Boca Chica, Panama
Member since Apr 2018
10067 posts
Posted on 8/30/21 at 10:05 am to
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Wake up to what?


With this attitude I no longer feel sad if you do not wake up. You will get just what you deserve.
Posted by Lima Whiskey
Member since Apr 2013
19464 posts
Posted on 8/30/21 at 10:07 am to
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They were, but that doesn't really illustrate the complicated intellectual landscape of continental Europe was during the Fin de Siècle. Arguably two of the most influential philosophers of the pre-war period, Heidegger and Schmitt, were regarded as part of the Conservative Revolution in Weimar Germany, and they influenced many later philosophers who would be regarded as left-wing. Heidegger is arguably the biggest influence on philosophers such as Arendt and Derrida, and you can even see the influence of Schmitt on Antonio Negri, who is among the last major Marxist theorists.


This doesn’t say anything. You’re not making an argument.
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
59245 posts
Posted on 8/30/21 at 10:10 am to
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He has no clue what it means. He's just been taught to support it.


Oh my God. And you were just accusing me of dishonesty. What on God's green Earth makes you think that I support CRT? You're as dense as the poster to whom you were responding.
Posted by 93and99
Dayton , Oh / Allentown , Pa
Member since Dec 2018
14400 posts
Posted on 8/30/21 at 10:11 am to
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I'm sorry. I guess I should just join you and many of the others here in calling the left Nazis. I'm not sure what it gets us, but I sure do raise a lot of voices of displeasure when I suggest otherwise.



I don't know about them being Nazis, but they definitely are worthless POS, who don't understand business, economics, taxes and politics.

Yet the tards are allowed to vote and Carter, Obama and Biden are the results.
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
59245 posts
Posted on 8/30/21 at 10:12 am to
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Ya GD shite for brains dumbazz; a huge part of the landscape on which todays leftist malaise is originated is on the actions of this leftist racism tool. Are they doing other things too? YEAH, Sparky! They are stealing elections, among other things, but just about everything they do in their quest for destruction of the USA is rooted in the activities of people LIKE Soros and the evil which he has brought for the last 40-70 years, including the hate filled CRITICAL RACE THEORY (actually critical theory where any structure an be theorized to meet the needs of the current state of tyranny.

Excuse me me for noting that your significant fight FOR "just leaving CRT and it historical connections and similarities alone". It is what it is, in that regard...


You sure used a lot of words to say, well, nothing substantive at all.

I've never said we should
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"just leaving CRT and it historical connections and similarities alone"
. Stop putting words into my mouth.
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
59245 posts
Posted on 8/30/21 at 10:15 am to
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With this attitude I no longer feel sad if you do not wake up. You will get just what you deserve.



Ah, just vague innuendos and allegations without substance. OK.

Why don't you been a generous person and tell me what you think I need to wake up to? You're another one who has called me a leftist on numerous occasions (without any sort of justification (and quite a bit of evidence to the contrary), which I find odd), so this should be fun.
Posted by JJJimmyJimJames
Southern States
Member since May 2020
18496 posts
Posted on 8/30/21 at 10:15 am to
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. Stop putting words into my mouth.

it is precisely your stated position

You are like the Bill Kristol of CRT stances/positions
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
262284 posts
Posted on 8/30/21 at 10:17 am to
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And you were just accusing me of dishonesty


No, stating that as a fact.

You're simply an angry drive by, you have no ideology, you just scream at the clouds.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
262284 posts
Posted on 8/30/21 at 10:18 am to
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who don't understand business, economics, taxes and politics.


Socialist don't.

CRT is not a real "thing" as its simply a manufactured fairy tale to support socialism.

CRT is anti scientific, anti fact. Its a fabricated sociology to explain a myth.
This post was edited on 8/30/21 at 10:19 am
Posted by Darth_Vader
A galaxy far, far away
Member since Dec 2011
64941 posts
Posted on 8/30/21 at 10:18 am to
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More cringe boomer Nazi analogies. How original.


The worst sort of fool is the fool who revels in and celebrates their own ignorance.
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
36386 posts
Posted on 8/30/21 at 10:20 am to
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This doesn’t say anything. You’re not making an argument.



I wasn't intending on making an argument to you in particular, as I broadly agree that fascism was reactionary, but to liberalism and capitalism as well. In the context of the OP, the link from CRT to CT to Fascism isn't at all clear, because it would also include thinkers generally regarded as conservatives.
Posted by IslandBuckeye
Boca Chica, Panama
Member since Apr 2018
10067 posts
Posted on 8/30/21 at 10:26 am to
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You're another one who has called me a leftist on numerous occasions (without any sort of justification (and quite a bit of evidence to the contrary), which I find odd), so this should be fun.


I dislike contrarian douchebags. Whatever your politics, this describes you.

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Why don't you been a generous person and tell me what you think I need to wake up to?


The origins of Critical Theory and applicability to current versions: CRT and Critical Pedagogy. Under these schools of thought, nothing good will happen. The history of this issue is described above. Researching the topic a bit on your own will not happen because you are an angry young person with a closed mind and short on life experience. You typify many of your peers: arrogant and ignorant.
Posted by oogabooga68
Member since Nov 2018
27194 posts
Posted on 8/30/21 at 10:29 am to
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because you are an angry young person with a closed mind and short on life experience. You typify many of your peers: arrogant and ignorant.


Insert "That 70's Show" burn gif here.....
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
59245 posts
Posted on 8/30/21 at 10:29 am to
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it is precisely your stated position


No.
Posted by JJJimmyJimJames
Southern States
Member since May 2020
18496 posts
Posted on 8/30/21 at 10:29 am to
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crazy4lsu

the link is as of a tool, with no positive determination of philosophical similarity..

of thousands of Americans trained by marxists (another incongruity) in fomenting racism..

as a tool for the radical leftists to proclaim entire races worthy of being doomed, of placed below all others, and whatever depths of depravity and tyranny are subsequent

no more, no less

Simply marxist trained simpletons using the tools of European fascists of 80 years ago for the benefit of marxist movements, new and old as well as racist organizations today.

Posted by dgnx6
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
69070 posts
Posted on 8/30/21 at 10:30 am to
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I'm sorry. I guess I should just join you and many of the others here in calling the left Nazis. I'm not sure what it gets us, but I sure do raise a lot of voices of displeasure when I suggest otherwise.


I dont believe that Joe Biden is a nazi.

Hes a senile old man being used to push the progressive agenda.

Not all democrats are progressive. But they refuse to speak out against the party from fear of losing their political career instead of doing whats right. Thats even worse.

And the young socialist democrats are extremely popular with young millennials and genz.

They are absolutely pushing the ideas of hitler, using race as the driving force.

Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
59245 posts
Posted on 8/30/21 at 10:30 am to
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you have no ideology,


Oh, I absolutely do.

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you just scream at the clouds.


Nah, I don't want to steal your thunder on that front.
Posted by Lima Whiskey
Member since Apr 2013
19464 posts
Posted on 8/30/21 at 10:33 am to
You’re not saying anything Crazy
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